Welcome!
This is the official thread for the first merit-based UEL Ryder Cup, to be held from Sep 20-Oct 13 @ Pinehurst #2.
This event is a follow-up to the inaugural UEL Ryder Cup (with self-selected players) held earlier this year, and won handsomely by ROW.
As detailed in the Uneven Lies Ryder Cup @ Pinehurst: Qualification Thread players have earned their places on the US and ROW teams for this event through participation in the UEL Spring 2014 Tour.
Automatic qualifiers for each team are as follows:
Team ROW:
fmagnets
Corwyn
KonradOse
Wontonamo
javiertorg
niqueclyde
TallAcePaul
johehejo
FairwayRuepel68
MainzMan
Team USA:
bhoese
mmyers0
KyRock75
BigKnight
ColumbusStorm (US team captain)
Wesdogg75
fredsf
gishdrums
poolmaniac6
The deadline for Captain's picks (2 for the ROW team, 3 for the USA team to include Iconian) will be Monday Sep 8th.That will make 12 players per team, and we will need alternates as well.
The ROW team captain has yet to be determined. (Note that while I'm trying to stay more in the organizer role, I am willing to co-captain, as I did last time.) I'd like to invite ROW players to nominate their choice for a captain, either in this thread, or if preferred in private via PM to myself. Our very capable captain last time was SteveReilly, who fell just short of automatic qualification, but would be honored to play again, either as alternate or captain's pick (and indeed, I've already enquired as to his willingness to captain again, as he did such a fine job last time. I'll let you all wrestle with the philosophical question of whether a captain's pick could be captain!).
I will send out PMs to all the named players above, and to a number of alternates on each team based on the qualification standings, and ask that all players please fill out the Time Availability Form in the next 2 weeks, by Mon Sep 8th. See post below for full details. I would also appreciate a post here in this thread re-confirming your availability and indicating when you've filled out the form. Thanks!
In checking to see if all the qualified players are still active, I have noticed no sign of life from TallAcePaul. Does anyone know if Paul is still playing?
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Here are important links:
Time Availability Sheet (see process in next post below) [sign-up form]
Specific Matches for 1st Week Best-Ball Series (spreadsheet link | forum post link with explanation and expectations)
Specific Matches for 2nd Week Foursomes Series (spreadsheet link | forum post link with explanation and expectations)
Specific Matches for 3rd Week Singles Series (spreadsheet link | forum post link with explanation and expectations)
Screenshot posting requirements explained here (scorecard, and stats if you can, please!)
Guidelines in the event of interrupted matches, disconnects, no-shows, etc.
Results Sheet
Chatzy Room dedicated to the UEL Ryder Cup
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Scheduling & Team Co-Captains
ROW :: Corwyn & SteveReilly
USA :: ColumbusStorm
Captains will help to select team pairings for the four-player series' and provide the blind 'secret envelope' line-up lists for their teams.
That said, scheduling for this tourney is highly dependent on availability rather than strategy or chance! We are running it based on players' declared playing times and matching people up accordingly.
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FORMAT & ROUND CONDITIONS:
Note that we since we now have the ability to play Matchplay and Alt Shot in UEL, we'll be able to do real best-ball Fourball, and Foursomes (Alt Shot), and drop the Worst-Ball compromise we had in the format last time. Foursomes and Singles can be set up in the game lobby as Alt Shot and Scored MP, while the Fourball matches will need to be set up in practice mode. Players will keep track of the Fourball Matchplay score as they go via the chat.
Please note, Gimme's are NOT allowed. You must put the ball in the hole! If anyone does take a Gimme, it'll count as a 10 on your card, so... Don't take a Gimme!
The ROW team (as reigning UEL Ryder Cup champions) have the honor, and so should set up the matches and be the first pair to tee off.
Please designate one player per match (per team as backup) to capture and share scorecard screenshots in the forum thread. Note that there can be an A/S result, which will mean 1/2 point to each team.
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Week 1 (from Sat 9/20 to Mon 9/29) :: FourBall (Best Ball) series with a set of six matches to be played over 9 holes (the front 9 at Pinehurst #2) :: Match Conditions:
Pinehurst #2 :: 4-Player Strokeplay :: Practice Mode :: Front 9 :: default Pins :: Blue (Hard) tees :: Tournament Green speed :: High wind :: Uneven Lies :: 90 second timer
Please note: Matches should end at the 9th, if they haven't ended earlier. You should not play Extra Holes. If match is tied after the 9th hole, then the result is A/S, and each team wins 1/2 pt.
The line-up for the 1st week 4-Player Fourball matches, to be completed by Mon 29th Sep is as follows: see Chart here
ROW Team vs USA
A :: johehejo & FairwayRuepel68 vs bhoese & Devonnnnn
B :: stevereilly & MainzMan Corwyn vs mmyers0 & ColumbusStorm
C :: fmagnets & jsweetcr vs Bigknight & CerinoDevoti
D :: javiertorg & Bonalyau vs JJ656 & GolferDadRB
E :: Dazza501 & cricketrules vs KyRock75 & iconian
F :: KonradOse & Corwyn MainzMan vs Wesdogg75 & fredsf
Suggested dates/times for Matches:
A :: The only overlap for the 4 of you is the weekend, between 6-10pm UTC (11am-3pm WGT time)
B :: The only overlap for the 4 of you is on one particular day at the weekend, on Saturday 9/20, between 5-10pm UTC (10am-3pm WGT time)
B :: The proposed time for the new group of the 4 of you is Saturday 9/20, starting at 4pm 5pm UTC (9am 10am WGT time) [local times: 5pm 6pm for Steve, 11am noon for mmyers0, noon 1pm for Russ]
C :: Please pay attention to the notes for your participants: hopefully you can plan on playing weekday Thursday (BK's best day) which has 3 hr overlap with a BK & jsweets possible block, between 3-6pm UTC (8-11am WGT time)
D :: Your group has lots of possible overlap time weekday and weekend if needed: best window is weekdays 11pm-2am UTC (4-7pm WGT time)
E :: The only overlap for the 4 of you is the weekend, and probably only Sundays [given Jack's schedule], between 7-11pm UTC (noon-4pm WGT time)
F :: This is the match with the worst overlap, with me being the snafu: there's nothing that can work weekday, and I have almost no chance to play at the weekend. It's just possible I could be home with no family around Saturday morning between 4-6pm UTC (9-11am WGT time), so I've sent out PMs to try and set that up. If we can't make it work, I'll drop out for wk1 and ask for an alternate to fill in, and the 4 players could try again the next day or the next weekend. Note that we do have 2 weekends available for play each week as the series overlap.
F :: The proposed time for the new group of the 4 of you is now on Sunday 9/21 between 5-8pm UTC (10am-1pm WGT time) (local times: 19:00-22:00 for Konrad and Mainz, 10am-1pm for Fred, noon-3pm for Wes)
UPDATE: MainzMan has proposed Sunday 9/21 at 6pm UTC (8pm local for him and Konrad; 11am for Fred, 1pm for Wes)
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Week 2 (from Sat 9/27 to Mon 10/6):: will be Foursomes (Alt Shot) with a set of six matches to be played over 9 holes (the back 9 this time at Pinehurst #2) with the following conditions:
Pinehurst #2 :: 4-Player Alt Shot :: Ranked Mode :: Back 9 :: Uneven Lies :: 90 second timer :: all other conditions as set by the game lobby
Please note: Matches should end at the 18th, if they haven't ended earlier. You should not play Extra Holes. If match is tied after the 18th hole, then the result is A/S, and each team wins 1/2 pt.
The line-up for the 2nd week 4-Player Foursomes (Alt Shot) matches, to be completed by Mon 6th Oct is as follows: see Chart here
ROW Team vs USA
A :: stevereilly & Bonalyau vs Devonnnnn & ColumbusStorm
B :: Corwyn & cricketrules vs BigKnight & CerinoDevoti
C :: fmagnets & jsweetcr vs mmyers0 & GolferDadRB
D :: Javiertorg & Dazza501 vs bhoese & JJ656
E :: johehejo & FairwayRuepel68 vs Wesdogg75 & fredsf
F :: KonradOse & MainzMan vs KyRock75 & iconian
A word on the process here... I followed the set-out procedure for setting up matches (see bottom of page 7 of the thread), starting with 1-1, 2-2 etc of the captains' secret envelopes. But that produced 4 matches that couldn't be played (no overlap amongst all 4 players)... and it was a similar story through the next 6 attempts. I then set up the first two US pairings against the only two ROW pairings that could match them, and tried the remaining four in the same order as they were in the 'secret envelope' -- that didn't work either, and nor did another 4 combinations. I finally gave up on that approach when the only date that worked for mm in a 12 day period didn't work for one other key opponent. Finally, I tried setting mm's match up against the only remaining ROW team that could play him weekday, and then going back to the secret envelope list order for the remaining 3 sets of pairs. This worked!
Suggested dates/times for Matches:
A :: The only overlap for the 4 of you is weekday, between noon-2pm UTC (5am-7am WGT time). It turned out that US alternate Moose's submitted times were wrong, and so Russ is stepping back into the team and the group is playing early (prior to Russ's trip next week). This match will take place tomorrow, Thursday 9/25 at noon UTC (5am WGT time). Edit: No, this doesn't work for Jean... so ...
Let's try for Monday, 9/29. (And if that doesn't work, we'll have to go with Monday, 10/6.)
Steve (stevereilly): your 1pm local time.
Jean (Bonalyau): your 8pm local time.
Devon (Devonnnnn): your 9:30am local time.
Russ (ColumbusStorm): your 8am local time.
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B :: This match is already scheduled for Wednesday 10/1, 4:30pm UTC (9:30am WGT time).
Corwyn: your 9:30am local time.
Jack (cricketrules): your 5:30pm local time.
BK (BigKnight) & Cerino (CerinoDevoti): your 12:30pm local time.
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C :: Your group only has overlap weekdays from 1:30am-3am UTC (6:30-8pm WGT time), and mm only has Thursday 10/2 and Friday 10/3 available. Hopefully, you can make either of those work for you. If needed, please look at Mon 10/6 as an additional fallback.
Edit: No, I missed a note from Mags from his form, and he's on a trip 10/3, and also Thursday's are not so good for Jon... ... so we're trying to make this match happen this coming Friday 9/26 instead (at the same times).
Mags (fmagnets): your 10:30pm local time.
Jon (jsweetcr): your 7:30pm local time.
mmyers0 & Ross (GolferDadRB): your 8:30pm local time.
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D :: Your group only has overlap at the weekend 9-11pm UTC (2-4pm WGT time), so please aim for this time on Saturday 9/27, or Sunday 9/28.
Javier (javiertorg): your 4pm local time.
Darren (Dazza501): your 10pm local time.
Ben (bhoese) & JJ (JJ656): your 4pm local time.
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E :: Your group also only has overlap at the weekend 2-10pm UTC (7am-3pm WGT time). However, this weekend Wes is away at a wedding until his mid-afternoon Sunday 9/28. You should try to play as early as is possible for him, e.g. 8:30 or 9pm UTC (1:30-2pm WGT time), so that it doesn't get too late for the "Teutonic Two" -- Wes will text Fred on his drive back to let him know what time will work. If it turns out to be too late, this match should play the following weekend, Saturday 10/4 or Sunday 10/5.
Jorg (johehejo) & Mark (FairwayRuepel68): your 10:30 or 11pm local time, Sunday 9/28.
Wes (Wesdogg75): your 3:30 or 4pm local time, Sunday 9/28, depending on how soon you're back.
Fred (fredsf): your 1:30 or 2pm local time, Sunday 9/28.
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F :: Your group also only has overlap at the weekend 7-10pm UTC (noon-3pm WGT time), and may have to play Sunday if Rock has Saturday work (note: Icon says he can play even though he's on a well-deserved vacation!). Please aim for 7pm UTC (noon WGT time) on Saturday 9/27, or Sunday 9/28. And please try for this weekend if at all possible, as Mainz can't play the following Saturday for sure.
Konrad (KonradOse) & Mainz (MainzMan): your 9pm local time.
Rock (KyRock75) & Icon (iconian): your 3pm local time.
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It will be the USA team who now have the honor for the second series of matches, as they are leading the competition. (I believe that's how it's done in the real Ryder Cup?; I'll be watching closely this weekend to see if that's true.)
And, the procedure for figuring out who tees off first within each team is explained in the FAQ (my emphasis below):
The creator of the game invites 3 other people to play, then chooses a partner from one of those players to form Team Green. The remaining 2 players form Team Gold, and the representative for Team Gold gets to choose who will tee off first for their team. The creator of the game will always tee off first for Team Green.
Whoever tees off first for the team will tee off on all of the odd numbered holes (1,3,5 etc.). Their partner will tee off on the even numbered holes (2,4,6 etc,).
In our case this will be holes 10, 12, 14, 16, 18 for the first player on each team, and 11, 13, 15, 17 for their partner.
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Here is the Chart in picture form: right-click to open in new tab, (note: it's easier to read in the spreadsheet itself; also the spreadsheet will be constantly updated; it's dynamic, while this pic below is not!)
link to large pic
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Week 3 (from Sat 10/4 Wed 10/1 to Mon 10/13) will be 12 singles matches, played over all 18 holes at Pinehurst #2 with the following conditions:
Pinehurst #2 :: 2-player Matchplay :: Scored :: Full 18 holes :: Uneven Lies :: 90 second timer :: all other conditions as set by the game lobby
Please note: Matches should end at the 18th, if they haven't ended earlier. You should not play Extra Holes. If match is tied after 18, then the result is A/S, and each team wins 1/2 pt.
The line-up for the 3rd week Singles Matches, to be completed by Mon 13th Oct, is as follows: see Chart here
ROW Team vs USA
A :: KonradOse vs mmyers0
B :: MainzMan vs GolferDadRB
C :: jsweetcr vs BigKnight
D :: Corwyn vs CerinoDevoti
E :: FairwayRuepel68 vs Devonnnnn
F :: Bonalyau vs ColumbusStorm
G :: stevereilly vs bhoese
H :: javiertorg vs JJ656
I :: Dazza501 vs Wesdogg75
J :: fmagnets vs fredsf
K :: cricketrules vs KyRock75
L :: johehejo vs iconian
A word on the process here... As as I do every time, I followed the set-out procedure for setting up matches (see bottom of page 7 of the thread), starting with 1-1, 2-2 etc of the captains' secret envelopes. Thankfully, every match has viable overlap, so the first iteration is the one we use!
Suggested dates/times for Matches: will follow in a subsequent post if needed...
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Here is the Chart in picture form: right-click to open in new tab, (note: it's easier to read in the spreadsheet itself; also the spreadsheet will be constantly updated; it's dynamic, while this pic below is not!)
link to large pic
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What to do next?
Send Friend Requests to your opponent from the other team. Either use this forum thread to confirm your matches via public replies (please quote this post and any relevant replies to make it easier to track), or do it all via PMs. [Always post here in the thread so we know you are scheduled.]
This tourney will not work if you rely on just 'catching your opponent green' -- you must schedule a specific time and date, and be there at that time!
The USA team, as competition leaders, still have the honor, and so should set up the Singles matches and be the first to tee off.
Please each capture and share scorecard screenshots in the forum thread (winner should post if they are able; loser should capture card and save just in case it's needed). Note that there can be an A/S result, which will mean 1/2 point to each team.
Any questions, please ask here!
Thanks, and good luck to everyone, Corwyn
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Now that we are down to 2-player games, it will be possible to have a 3rd player join and livestream (and hopefully, record/archive the stream) some matches.
If you are willing to have your match streamed, and have the time to have a 3rd player join you, please post here in the thread...
... and, if we have any willing 'streamers' please come forward!