DuFussMcGoo:I too wonder where the comments came from for el3n1.
the professor (Robert) picked up on it - and had I noticed and waited to see his response - I would not have replied.
Thank you Robert and while we don't always agree - I greatly appreciate that we can share and learn from each other while respecting we have also had different goals on WGT.
I
too am human and if my post was harsh, it was due to a semi abrupt reply after
taking offense that others want to act like they have a more credible opinion
than the observations of those with thousands of rounds of experience and coin
room play.
I
still can't see or know everything - WGT doesn't want us to or ever allow us
to - so even when we can experience something countless times - it is
still based on our experience.
That
being said - if we keep making the same mistakes or overlooking what we could
be doing wrong then it could have to do with us and not the game or others
trying to undermine the game in some way - in which case we won't improve - the
problem is not always with the game - but how you are learning and what you are
learning.
The
game has also been subjected to a lot of people that choose to exploit the game
in any number of ways - whether that is multi accounts, restarters, people
strip mining 2 credit videos, or people in coin rooms intentionally sabotaging
games to try and steal coins. -- I actually think people may have
accidentally learned how this glitch or bug works when someone rage quit or did
something else only to discover it ended up giving them the win. And, as
a result, people learned how to do something even if it was not intentional to
begin with. But - when it keeps happening - even by experienced players -
it starts looking increasingly suspicious - much like a new player that starts
winning a bunch of RG's can look suspicious as being a restart or multi
account.
We
may not know definitively - but there is often a much stronger case that can be
made - when you observe such things in a particular manner or fashion.
-- for what it is worth - we can hit an approach to a tight pin over water knowing 80% of the time it should work out fine - but if we go pin hunting - variance could lead to a lost ball 20% of the time - so - we can learn to play that same shot safe 100% of the time - removing the chance of a lost ball by not going at a pin and then just trying to make what may be a longer putt.
Making observation in the game - can be similar to those type of shot selections - we may not always know for certain - but we can eliminate some of the ambiguity - especially when some people end up being repeat offenders. The odds go down that it was accidental when it keeps happening with certain people or country clubs.
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As a side note - the real game of golf in match play allows for a player to concede without finishing the hole - everyone here calls it forfeiting but a sportsmanlike concession is well within the rules of golf - especially when done appropriately.
So, I would like to see the word "forfeit" changed to concede hole, but that is personal preference and not worth the time investment if there are actual game fixes it would delay - but if it simply delays the release of a new pair of pants - then I would prefer to see the word changed.
Did not intend to ruffle any other feathers- and only wish I had seen Roberts post first and saved myself some time - but after noticing a couple replies I felt I should comment.
best wishes and fairways and greens.