You can turn the numbers insideout & WGT is still hosed.
Nanstar / Lobsters Lair - I'll be in touch asap.
oneeyedjohn: Nanstar / Lobsters Lair - I'll be in touch asap.
Ignoring Grande Oaks, John, or scared? ;)
andyson: pdb1:Real income to WGT comes from ball usage (27 cr) and CC members buying passes Sorry, no, not necessarily. It's an accounting thing. Real income to WGT is in the form of $ from members buying credits, $ from sponsors, $ from Supersonic or Trial Pay or Peanut Labs etc due to members watching ads and taking surveys or offers, $ from club manufacturers for advertising there clubs on WGT to the millions of real golfers here, and $ from the ad agencies supplying the banner ads viewed by the members. If a member was given credits by WGT for placing in a tournament or being promoted, there's no cost to WGT and no revenue to WGT when those credits are used. Top players accumulate hundreds of thousands of credits with no out-of-pocket expense. Therefore, when they buy balls or passes, no real revenue to WGT.
pdb1:Real income to WGT comes from ball usage (27 cr) and CC members buying passes
Sorry, no, not necessarily. It's an accounting thing. Real income to WGT is in the form of $ from members buying credits, $ from sponsors, $ from Supersonic or Trial Pay or Peanut Labs etc due to members watching ads and taking surveys or offers, $ from club manufacturers for advertising there clubs on WGT to the millions of real golfers here, and $ from the ad agencies supplying the banner ads viewed by the members.
If a member was given credits by WGT for placing in a tournament or being promoted, there's no cost to WGT and no revenue to WGT when those credits are used.
Top players accumulate hundreds of thousands of credits with no out-of-pocket expense. Therefore, when they buy balls or passes, no real revenue to WGT.
It wasn't my quote . I kinda thought it was one of yours . But if you guys want to just nit pick and beat around the bush . Maybe it's too big of a task . Or maybe you don't understand the simplicity of the question . Maybe you guys are lazy . Or maybe you just can't figure it out . No matter , eventually someone will .
pdb1:It wasn't my quote . I kinda thought it was one of yours .
Huh? It wasn't you that I quoted? Pffft....
It most certainly was you.
PaulTon: oneeyedjohn: Nanstar / Lobsters Lair - I'll be in touch asap. Ignoring Grande Oaks, John, or scared? ;)
Awww, my fish net stocking friend, we will be in touch (cyberly and figuratively) soon enough:)
andyson:It most certainly was you.
Lol . I said it wasn't . Playng a round right now I'll dig up where I found it a little later .
andyson: EasyEdward:2) Real income to WGT comes from ball usage (27 cr) and CC members buying passes (37 cr). At first I thought that too. But after thinking about it from a business point of view, they get income from me directly only when I buy credits using a credit or gift card. If I won those credits in a free weekly tournament that's not real income for WGT. I think of the CC pass as merely an incentive for players to login to the site. Its another reason to play. Very much like the Consecutive Days Played bonus. Getting people to the site is important to WGT as it is a large part of how Ad Rates are determined. The more unique visitors to a site each month the higher the ad rates. I'm not a Web Marketing expert so this is a very simple view. There are many other factors like ad placement and size, and how well your audience matches the advertisers target audience. How can the FOX TV network charge $4 million for a 30 second Super Bowl ad? Because there were 110 million viewers! Same thing here. The more people who visit the site, the more WGT can charge to have ads displayed. So WGT gets revenue indirectly from us just because we visit the site. I do agree with EasyEd's conclusion, no one saving credits to buy balls or clubs is likely to buy a CC pass they'll use a free one. Its genius really. You want to be a good CC member, you're getting pressure maybe from the owner and other members to contribute to the CC XP totals, so you make sure you keep your CDP bonus at 880 xps and use a CC pass. Now everyone is helping WGT keep their numbers up.
EasyEdward:2) Real income to WGT comes from ball usage (27 cr) and CC members buying passes (37 cr).
At first I thought that too. But after thinking about it from a business point of view, they get income from me directly only when I buy credits using a credit or gift card. If I won those credits in a free weekly tournament that's not real income for WGT.
I think of the CC pass as merely an incentive for players to login to the site. Its another reason to play. Very much like the Consecutive Days Played bonus. Getting people to the site is important to WGT as it is a large part of how Ad Rates are determined. The more unique visitors to a site each month the higher the ad rates. I'm not a Web Marketing expert so this is a very simple view. There are many other factors like ad placement and size, and how well your audience matches the advertisers target audience.
How can the FOX TV network charge $4 million for a 30 second Super Bowl ad? Because there were 110 million viewers! Same thing here. The more people who visit the site, the more WGT can charge to have ads displayed.
So WGT gets revenue indirectly from us just because we visit the site.
I do agree with EasyEd's conclusion, no one saving credits to buy balls or clubs is likely to buy a CC pass they'll use a free one. Its genius really. You want to be a good CC member, you're getting pressure maybe from the owner and other members to contribute to the CC XP totals, so you make sure you keep your CDP bonus at 880 xps and use a CC pass. Now everyone is helping WGT keep their numbers up.
CC PASS
BTW . I got this idea from that " Peoples Club " scenario of E E's . I was hoping for a real tally as though members were actually spending credits or money . My bad for not refreshing your memories . I forgot you guys are old too .
Thanks for clarifying!
Are you too young to quote Edward's phrase correctly in the first place?
I bet you had to look it up + copy&paste it then - too old to memorize the post from Sept. '14 by heart?
Pun but no offence intended, young old man ;)