This is what you don't get Mike...
25ft up 12 is easy, the formulas work, on a couple of courses like Merion you better at least get to the hole though...
down 12 isn't....the break is doubled so 25ft isn't 25ft...if the
downhill is that severe your approach stopped on a flat spot of some
sort or it would have rolled back down which becomes a huge factor, where does the downhill start, how
hard do I have to hit it to get off of the plateau I landed on...
no break and already on the gradual downslope you just get it rolling and pray...
barely on a flat spot, double the break and hit it 2-3-4-5ft power, depends on the lay of the slope...
the severity of the downhill starts 10, 12, 14, 18ft away, how hard do
you hit it to barely be rolling when it starts, how hard
do I hit it to get off the flat and not leave another severe downhill
putt 6? 8? 9? 10?.....is the break so severe I have to go sideways and hit it harder
which always leaves a difficult putt for par and brings bogey into play
unless of course you make it...
NO formulas, feel/experience...the formulas tell me to hit some 8ft downhill putts that are straight in or barely moving at 3 power, I take the break out and hit 6, 6 1/2, same thing!
why everyone says "hit below the hole"....you have to be good enough to
do that! There are pins that missing it correctly is good...birdie in play, bogey out of play...
Merion for example, I would rather have a severe uphill 20ft putt for
birdie than a 5-8ft sidehill lie with a severe downslope and break then a
20ft uphill for par anytime! Kiwiah has holes that are best to missed
in certain areas so you don't get a funky camera angle...
#15 front left pin for example, I aim for the flag but make sure I'm
not past it...if it sticks close fine, birdie, if it rolls off the hill
fine, chip up which might go, and take the par...what I don't want is a
8-12ft putt I have to hit at 2-3 and still have a chance to roll off the
green leaving a chip for par..
You very well may be one of those players, but you don't provide any useful info. (F
I play as good or better than 99.9% of the people on this site...yet
I score as good as 50% of them...I hit 1 approach per 9, not tooooo bad but leaves a
tough putt I make sometimes, my real problem is very easy 3-8 ft putts
with little or no break that I push or pull off the hole because I'm stupid, it is ingrained in my mind that I'm going to do it a few times per 9 after playing the hole very well, I turn 25-27's into 29-31's everyday like it is a rule, yet only missing the putts by an inch here and there total, or lip out!
That's why I'm not playing much for awhile, when I start playing again
if I don't improve I have most likely peaked, I'll quit playing regularly and take on something else...