Oh yeah! Imo, it's headed the same place my golf balls go, during clashs, in the drink! This last clash, was so much fun, espically no. 8 on Kiawah, par 3, omg cost me 2 balls. 30 mph cross winds, right to left. I knew better, but the way the wind was affecting the flight, I figured try it, but be conservative. I aimed over the water, yep u might have guessed it, no wind, in the drink! Next shot aimed at green, wind blew so far left, ob. I didn't know u could go ob, left of that green, 2 lost. How do you practice for that? I watched the flag stick, flag was standing straight out, so it couldn't have been a lull in the wind. It took awhile, but I've learned my lesson, no more clashs, except with using free balls. No more buying passes, or gifting them either, wgt wins, they broke my spirit!!!!!!!