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Tue, Apr 28 2015 3:58 PM (47 replies)
  • MichaelStroke
    2,066 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 12:21 PM

    jenwren:
    As for the CC in question they had as of yesterday 90 members against our 40.  Why pick on the smaller CC's when there are many bigger ones around.

    The smaller CCs are the low-hanging fruit.  Unless it's a whole crop of really close-knit guys, there usually isn't much in the ability of keeping people in place unless they have a certain "in".  They tend to be lower in level, which means fewer player perks.  Also if you do find one created by a group of really good friends, when they open it to the public and randoms invite, more often than not they realize that they're the "odd man out", and can easily be swayed.

    Contrast that with the ability to pull someone away from a large, busy, active club like TPC.  Total apples and oranges.

  • Stryder1261
    931 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 12:22 PM

    They don't want to create a CC Forum post to promote and recruit members.

    They don't want to play someone and ask "do you belong to a CC ?" and if they don't, invite them ! if they do,  be courteous and say just asking and leave it at that !!

    Instead they would rather go thru someone's CC and ask the best members to leave there and join their's !  and most members won't !

    It's still the principle that they don't want to work to grow their CC but Poach !

    And like I said before that makes them a Total Douche Bag !!!!

  • EasyEdward
    13,495 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 1:29 PM

    MichaelStroke:

    jenwren:
    As for the CC in question they had as of yesterday 90 members against our 40.  Why pick on the smaller CC's when there are many bigger ones around.

    The smaller CCs are the low-hanging fruit.  Unless it's a whole crop of really close-knit guys, there usually isn't much in the ability of keeping people in place unless they have a certain "in".  They tend to be lower in level, which means fewer player perks.  Also if you do find one created by a group of really good friends, when they open it to the public and randoms invite, more often than not they realize that they're the "odd man out", and can easily be swayed.

    Contrast that with the ability to pull someone away from a large, busy, active club like TPC.  Total apples and oranges.

    Three things I have noticed:

    1) There is one owner who sent me two invites to their CC after I was in The Peoples Club for over a year.  Obviously I declined both of them but our Forum thread both times concerning the owner / poacher was very active as this owner had contacted many in TPC. This CC owner already had a top 20 CC with 250 members.

    2) Another owner apparently wanted to build a CC and picked on The Peoples Club just a few months back. This owner was apparently lazy because as far as we could tell just got through all the members of TPC that were listed before the letter "C" LOL. This owner was an owner of a top 25 CC.

    3) Another one that was interesting was the owner who wanted to raid small CCs to build a CC. This owner was specifically looking at members who were generating lots of CC XPs for their existing CC and lure just these members away. This CC owner never tried TPC but has a top 10 CC. When called on it this CC owner went to "subterfuge" by sending friend request and then posting on their wall a simple: "Please accept my friend request - I have a proposal for you." instead of the more blatant "Come join my CC we want people like you in ours and it appears your current CC does not care about you."

    In my opinion each of these owners actions are totally unethical.

    We have not heard from a WGT Moderator in this thread BUT in a different post in the Community Help Forum WGTAdmin2 replied to a person trying to be poached to save a screenshot and report it to WGT if it happened.

    While I agree that there is nothing that binds a CC member to their current CC and they should be free to go wherever they want; I believe it is the member who should make the choice to leave or stay and then IF they decide to leave to research where they would like to go to.

    An owner who dangles a Golden Putter as bait or sends out random invites simply is a CC that anyone in their right mind should ignore (and report to WGTAdmin2). 

    After all who wants to be in a CC with an unethical owner?

    EE

     

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 1:56 PM

    Well, I'm with the minority I guess.

     

    I see no harm in asking a player once, or sending an invite to join one, it's the repeated invite requests that annoy me.

     

    I think the way PDB did it was fine...asked the player a question, didn't bombard him with invites, etc.

     

    Some of you must get really jealous if you significant other goes out someplace without you. 

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 2:00 PM

    MBaggese:
    Some of you must get really jealous if you significant other goes out someplace without you. 

    A whole night of uninterrupted golf...bliss.

  • bubbsboy
    6,879 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 2:10 PM

    MBaggese:

    Well, I'm with the minority I guess.

     

    I see no harm in asking a player once, or sending an invite to join one, it's the repeated invite requests that annoy me.

     

    I think the way PDB did it was fine...asked the player a question, didn't bombard him with invites, etc.

     

    Some of you must get really jealous if you significant other goes out someplace without you. 

    Asking once is fine but dont do it more eh mmmmm. What about his relentless posts about him only inviting 1 hour after he joined us, oh yes all will read and believe him he thought and its then me who has done wrong......until i proved otherwise!!!

    Bored with this, thanks to those who agree, those who dont, well you carry on defending it and i think i may get my poachers hat on, goose and gander and all that sh!te  ;-)

  • IRISHPUNK
    4,019 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 2:24 PM

    PaulTon:

    MBaggese:
    Some of you must get really jealous if you significant other goes out someplace without you. 

    A whole night of uninterrupted golf...bliss.

    THIS!  

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 2:30 PM

    bubbsboy:
    Asking once is fine but dont do it more eh mmmmm. What about his relentless posts about him only inviting 1 hour after he joined us, oh yes all will read and believe him he thought and its then me who has done wrong......until i proved otherwise!!!

     

    So the guy/gal made a timeline mistake, point is he only asked once to take a look...the bickering here in this thread is why he has repeatably said that (albeit incorrect), you can't connect repeated post in a forum thread to repeated invites that did not occur.

     

    bubbsboy:
    Bored with this

     

    Obviously not....

  • MBaggese
    15,367 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 2:30 PM

    PaulTon:
    A whole night of uninterrupted gay midget porn..bliss

     

    Fixed it for ya Paul;)

  • PaulTon
    10,731 Posts
    Mon, Apr 27 2015 2:57 PM

    MBaggese:

    PaulTon:
    A whole night of uninterrupted gay midget porn..bliss

     

    Fixed it for ya Paul;)

    Replace gay with amputee clown and you've got it bang on!

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