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Mon, Mar 20 2023 4:45 PM (11 replies)
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  • qtam2
    5 Posts
    Tue, Sep 1 2020 10:02 PM

    From 2020-September-01, When I play in beverly hills coin room(9 hole room), my apparel ability is not working. My driver distance was 283yds, but it was shortened about 272  yds or 270yds. 3Wood was also shotened.

    But, when I paly in chelsey room(1 hole room), everythin is good as before. My drive distance is ok.

     

    What's wrong with WGT beverly hills coin room(9 hole room)? Is that a bug?

    Or am I missing something?

     

  • JDGHOST
    6,443 Posts
    Wed, Sep 2 2020 4:23 PM

    Maybe WGT has "Finally' Come to their senses and is slowly removing the ridiculous apparel cheat boosts...Which have no use in the game in the first place?? Of course I'm sure its just a glitch as I was just hopping they would remove something that is so far fetched as a "HAT" that can add 20 yards to a driver!!

  • PAT3361
    46 Posts
    Thu, Feb 23 2023 3:33 PM

    your not the only one to experience this, i have lost count the number of games I have lost to low level Pro's and Tour pro's alike because of this situation, it doesn't happen all the time but it has got to the point where i can almost tell the out come of the game after 1 or 2 holes, I have a 245 3 wood in my bag and have watched as it landed at 219 with a 20 mph tail wind, I have watched shots go as far right of the target as I aimed left into a right to left wind, i have witnessed almost every club in the bag come up miles short of their distance for no reason what so ever. If it were me hitting a bad shot then I would have nothing to moan about but that is not the case. My only conclusion, something which i beleive to be true for some time now, and a conclusion I have reached after 12 yrs of playing wgt, is that it is in a lot of cases predetermind, which if you think of it from a business point of view if pro's tour pro's masters etc where tossing all the time to genuine Legend & Champion players (not coin Legends) then those guys would soon loose interest and NOT play the game anymore so from a business stand point it makes good sense for them to win now and again or perhaps loose by a stroke or 2 only. It doesn't help however the seasoned player who is left scratching his head trying to figure out why his shot landed 30yards short with a hurricane blowing behind it!!!

    It also astounds me the level of control these same players get with free balls, hence why I STOPPED buying balls 

  • pdb1
    25,005 Posts
    Fri, Feb 24 2023 12:19 PM

    PAT3361:
    My only conclusion, something which i beleive to be true for some time now, and a conclusion I have reached after 12 yrs of playing wgt, is that it is in a lot of cases predetermind, which if you think of it from a business point of view if pro's tour pro's masters etc where tossing all the time to genuine Legend & Champion players (not coin Legends) then those guys would soon loose interest and NOT play the game anymore so from a business stand point it makes good sense for them to win now and again or perhaps loose by a stroke or 2 only.

    Wow . Good thing that's not the case .

    PAT3361:
    It doesn't help however the seasoned player who is left scratching his head trying to figure out why his shot landed 30yards short with a hurricane blowing behind it!!!

    Soiunds like the seasoned player needs more seasoning . .

    That will happen on occasion to any player .

    It's more like hitting in virtual wind , is not as exact as hitting with no wind .

    Question to all ; How many rounds makes a seasoned player ?

    1000

    2500

    5000

    7500

    10,000

    Obviously there will be a vast range of opinions on that .

    And by now in time . 2023 . We know that what used to be mostly mobile players . Were considered lesser than . Not real WGT golfers . Have now put the time and rounds in .

    There is no way to tell the difference anymore .

    Except they may be better than us .

  • Squatch031
    80 Posts
    Sun, Feb 26 2023 7:13 AM

    Good for you!  I totally agree!  I tried that BS clothing thing when I first started but as I got better and started playing in various tournaments, which don't all clothing boost.  As they say, train as you fight, so I ditched all bonus clothing and bought some nice stuff in pro shop.  Amazingly, nothing changed in regard to distances, power, and accuracy.  In fact, my game is much better.  Clothing is a scam!

  • SimonTheBeetle
    3,311 Posts
    Sun, Feb 26 2023 3:19 PM

    Squatch031:

    Good for you!  I totally agree!  I tried that BS clothing thing when I first started but as I got better and started playing in various tournaments, which don't all clothing boost.  As they say, train as you fight, so I ditched all bonus clothing and bought some nice stuff in pro shop.  Amazingly, nothing changed in regard to distances, power, and accuracy.  In fact, my game is much better.  Clothing is a scam!

    LOL Yup! The apparel enhancement does nothing good 'cause...

    1) It's not there when it matters. You can't use any of them in ranked rounds except for some clash matches AFAIK.

    2) Even in the coin rooms, I've seen countless players hitting some 20-30 yards further, but not able to hit it closer to the pin than me. It is not a longest drive contest but rather it's all about knowing and understanding what your club and ball would do on the given circumstances.

    So yeah, in a summary, it's useless.

  • MarchieB
    1,505 Posts
    Sun, Feb 26 2023 6:13 PM

    SimonTheBeetle:
    1) It's not there when it matters. You can't use any of them in ranked rounds except for some clash matches AFAIK.

    Yes, while apparel won’t work in any Tournament RR’s, you can actually play your RR’s with apparel ON if you play Solo Stroke play RR’s. 

  • pdb1
    25,005 Posts
    Sun, Feb 26 2023 6:31 PM

    SimonTheBeetle:
    So yeah, in a summary, it's useless.

    It is a lot of fun though . I have been using it longer than I knew how to use it .For several years before 2021 .

    Now I get coin enhancements and driver enhancements .

    So I enjoy the longer drives . I don't think anyone expects any better accuracy .

    When I play Tournaments or CTTH's . The apparel is not active . I wouldn't want it to be on then .

    All other ranked , coin or alt matches can be played with apparel .

    But " Useless " ? Not at all . It is fun . And the coin enhancements allow me to play a lot more .

     

  • PAT3361
    46 Posts
    Sat, Mar 18 2023 6:13 PM

    In my humble opinion a seasoned player would be one who achieved rank and stats by playing ranked rounds which was the ONLY way to improve on your average score, when i started playing the game in 2011, but that all changed with the introduction of the mobile game, i have asked wgt several times how players with little and in some cases zero ranked games achieve an ave score of 64.00! to be told by wgt that players averages are adjusted according to there scores in coin games! yet if I score say a minus 4/5 and on a few occasions -8 in coin games my average does not move by a single decimal point. 

    So when I speak of seasoned players I mean no disrespect to anyone who plays the game but I do take umbrage at this who manipulate the standing by making no attempt to improve on the ave instead happy to remain at tour pro level yet continue to gain level by level until you get to (as I encountered one night) a level 135 tour pro with all the top equipment and ball to match, needless to say game was over by the 5th hole I couldn't even compete.

    So to sum up the seasoned player doesn't need seasoning but a level playing field one were 1 rule applies to all would suffice, but no doubt in your EXPERT opinion i will be wrong

  • pdb1
    25,005 Posts
    Sun, Mar 19 2023 11:01 PM

    PAT3361:

    In my humble opinion a seasoned player would be one who achieved rank and stats by playing ranked rounds which was the ONLY way to improve on your average score, when i started playing the game in 2011, but that all changed with the introduction of the mobile game, i have asked wgt several times how players with little and in some cases zero ranked games achieve an ave score of 64.00! to be told by wgt that players averages are adjusted according to there scores in coin games! yet if I score say a minus 4/5 and on a few occasions -8 in coin games my average does not move by a single decimal point. 

    So when I speak of seasoned players I mean no disrespect to anyone who plays the game but I do take umbrage at this who manipulate the standing by making no attempt to improve on the ave instead happy to remain at tour pro level yet continue to gain level by level until you get to (as I encountered one night) a level 135 tour pro with all the top equipment and ball to match, needless to say game was over by the 5th hole I couldn't even compete.

    So to sum up the seasoned player doesn't need seasoning but a level playing field one were 1 rule applies to all would suffice, but no doubt in your EXPERT opinion i will be wrong

    Hello Pat

    It is this simple . Early on in this Mobile/Coin play . A new algorythm was applied to those players that played extensive and exclusive Coin play .

    Nothing was mentioned to them regarding any ranked rounds or the WGT.com protocol .

    Those players with the Mobile/Coin algorythm progress and promote according to the number of Coin rounds played and played successfully .

    It is of no fault of the players that that is their method .

    Your observations are not wrong .

    This has been/is/will be a problem .

    I have no idea how it will be sorted out .

    The Mobile/Coin algorythm does not apply to players already playing ranked rounds .

    And for Mobile/Coin players . Once they play a certain number of ranked rounds . Their algorythm no longer applies .

    Meaning eventually they will end up playing WGT.com ranked rounds protocol . To be able to continue progressing .

    I'm sure many of those will be none too happy . Having not been informed about this .

    But this also means that there are " seasoned " Coin players with high numbers of Coin rounds . But their tier , average , or Level or score history will not reflect that .

    Not their fault .

     

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