Paul -
I can see you like to beat your head against the wall, so maybe genuine dialogue is not something you are interested in. That's too bad, because on one hand you appear to genuinely care about the game and are passionate about it, but you also seem very quick to ignore details while claiming to be somewhat of the definitive source for this topic.
But yet, all you have done is claim to have "documentation you could fill a book with". Also, making hundreds of posts doesn't mean your opinion or views are any more right or correct than a person that posts even 1 time. You may even have some valuable or credible information to share but the manner in which you go about brow beating and thumping your own chest while ignoring the valid observations and views of others diminishes the integrity of your own position even if it has value.
It doesn't mean you don't care, it doesn't mean you are not involved...but it suggests the manner in which you go about it has issues and undermines your own value as a credible source because your actions, your tone, comes across as being oblivious to reason and rational discussion.
Find me exactly where I said you do not have an "opinion" in fact my posts suggest you do in fact have an "opinion" but it is not a "definitive fact." We all have views, we all have opinions that some base loosely on facts, observation, data, or whatever we choose as the basis...For some, it may simply be their own personal experience. It is your exuberance in claiming to have or be the definitive source on the topic that comes across more as arrogance than a statement of fact.
Nancy,
It appears you clearly ignored or overlooked this entire paragraph in my posts..."This doesn't mean there are not good players there but they obviously don't invest as much of their time in events that bring out the best players because they can't keep playing ready go's over and over and over until they accumulate the most points."
Your response supports this position when you stated--"That is because we all play for our CC and not for ourselves in the WGT tournaments to win credits. "
My point regarding the clashes Nancy, is simply playing more and paying more does not necessarily make you a better club or even the best club on WGT. You simply have a different agenda and priority and are more than willing to spend an unlimited amount of credits to obtain what is virtually worthless in the grand scheme of things. That works out well for WGT, but the "illusion" of obtaining something that merely amounts to an egoic pursuit that leads you to believe you have obtained something of value when in fact you have virtually nothing to show for it shows WGT and the technology industry is doing a great job at what is labeled "brain hacking." What is more revealing to me...is this video that I have linked elsewhere now appears to have been protected or withdrawn to some extent. I will continue to look for it because it was a very insightful look into the techniques used by the technology industry to lure people into addictive behaviors.
These "techniques" are the same type of "incentives' casinos use to get you to do something you would not ordinarily do. They tap into "human emotions" and "ego" to create an illusion of a competition like behavior that creates addictive like tendencies to perpetuate repetitive behaviors that lead you to spend more and pay more without much thought. Does it "feel" like you won something maybe...but what really have you won that you can take home with you at night, share with your family or friends? These are not simply my opinions they are how I have observed these in the WGT game and what I learned from information revealed by technology industry.
Edit...try searching "brain hacking" on youtube there is a 3 part episode...one of the first examples given is called "streaks" aka CDP to induce daily behavior...I myself felt sucked in by this at the start but realize how it can be "manipulating" my behavior...
Paul, Nancy...
let me add, I am not criticizing either one of you or your clubs or your beliefs...I am merely sharing a perspective that is drawing upon insightful information researched by the technology industry to perpetuate certain behaviors in online games whether that is through the phone or desktop computer. In essence...we too are being gamed...having some understanding of that allows us to keep it in perspective....
I will also note, there is "value" in the connections and relationships made for individuals who feel isolated but are able to find a "community" that can be supportive for them. The one caveat is provided that community does not demand them to make commitments that are harmful to themselves or their financial resources. If so, they obviously are free to choose to leave. I imagine most people know if they were to join the "G" a certain expectation exists, otherwise they should look elsewhere. Certain types of people may be drawn to that while others may not...It is why there are hundreds of thousands of clubs out there...