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Mon, May 16 2011 9:40 AM (11 replies)
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  • danohi50
    1,020 Posts
    Thu, May 12 2011 5:44 PM

    With all the new equipment we now have at our disposal, I have to admit IM gitting confused.

    What might be the best club combination for Congressional?

    I have the Calloway Z and S balls..I prefer the z.

    Daytona Rossa Putter which I love.

    The 80-100-115 cleavland wedges.

    The 64% is somewhat worthless with some of the rough there.

    And I just purchased the latest Taylor Irons

    Ping I15 3 wood and the 280 r-9.

    If you were to make a suggestion to improve this set, what would it be and why?

    I have just about all the top line stuff so interchanging is not a biggy.

  • tiffer67
    1,764 Posts
    Thu, May 12 2011 6:15 PM

    If I were you I'd make some changes;

    Z Ball, it gives you more than enough spin.

    Taylor irons - great

    Putter - great

    With the Taylor Made wedge sitting at 125 yard distance I'd ditch the Cleveland 115 yard lob. The Taylor Wedge punches 108 yards in all likelihood 111-113 with top spin.

    Keep the 100 and 80 yard Clevelands. The 100 punches 84, the 80 punches 68. I would then add either the Ping 60 yard lob or the Taylor Made Z Satin 50 yard lob. My own preference is the 50 yard lob as it is so versatile from 20 - 50 yards in.

    With that your wedges at 100% full or punch cover the following distances;

    125,108,100,84,80,68,50 & 41.

    There's a bit of a gap between 68 yards and 50 yards but choking down on the 68 yard punch will cover that. Keeping the Cleveland 115 wedge would mean your wedges at 100% full and punch cover the following distances;

    125,115,108,100, 98, 84, 80 & 68. That leaves you very exposed from 60 yards in and it is over these distances that you need to be able to scramble to avoid dropping shots.

    Both woods I'd bin. The 280 R9 and Ping i15 3 wood have very different meter speeds from each other and with your irons and wedges, albeit to a lesser extent.

    Get yourself the R11 driver and 3 Wood, same meter speed as each other and closer to the meter speed of the irons and wedges. They are also much easier to hit consistently and the 3 wood lands softer on the greens than the Ping i15 3 wood.

    That's how I set up and it works for me, there are many variables that work well for other players. Hopefully you can follow my logic though. 

  • danohi50
    1,020 Posts
    Thu, May 12 2011 8:12 PM

    Thanks tiff, yea I get exactly what your saying. Im surprised the R=11 woods are closer to the meter speed of the irons..I thought the r=9 had the same speed according to the pro shop.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Fri, May 13 2011 5:08 AM

    tiffer67:
    125,115,108,100, 98, 84, 80 & 68. That leaves you very exposed from 60 yards in and it is over these distances that you need to be able to scramble to avoid dropping shots

    I spent a number of rounds yesterday with this very setup to see what it would take to accommodate losing the 64w. It's definitely a test of your pitching and choking abilities and you get a real good idea of just how valuable that wedge is up close.

    I'll stay with it for another day with a different strategy in mind. Since the CGs are so accurate and predictable in all shot modes I'm going to try laying up to where they can be used with full swings. In all honesty it looks like the 64w is going back in the bag, depending on how that set wedge handles the 25 yard gap to the 100CG.

  • JaLaBar
    1,254 Posts
    Fri, May 13 2011 6:55 AM

    *hugs his Satin64*

  • tiffer67
    1,764 Posts
    Fri, May 13 2011 10:00 AM

    JaLaBar:

    *hugs his Satin64*

    For me it's the best club in the bag :^)

  • danohi50
    1,020 Posts
    Fri, May 13 2011 10:19 AM

    I can actually visualize using different set-ups for each course.

  • tiffer67
    1,764 Posts
    Fri, May 13 2011 11:56 AM

    danohi50:

    I can actually visualize using different set-ups for each course.

    chrisironsbones made a suggestion on another thread that with the Taylor Made 3 iron max-ing at 230 yards that the 3 wood could always be dropped in favour of a fourth wedge.

    I decided to give it a go this afternoon so my bag now has the Z Satin TP Master 54 in there too.

    Yardages for the wedges are now 125, 110, 108, 100, 91, 84, 80, 68, 50 & 41.

    I know I'll go back to the previous set up soon enough, I cannot resist the temptation of the par 5s in 2. In the meantime I will see how my scores fare with 4 wedges.

     

  • danohi50
    1,020 Posts
    Fri, May 13 2011 8:11 PM

    Tiff, I did'nt even think of dropping the 3 wood in return for my 64...that m,ight be a really good option for all but the longest courses.

  • YankeeJim
    25,827 Posts
    Sat, May 14 2011 6:46 AM

    danohi50:

    Tiff, I did'nt even think of dropping the 3 wood in return for my 64...that m,ight be a really good option for all but the longest courses.

    I did it after I read this post to see. At CCC , so far, the 231 yd par 3 is a problem. You have to play for par with the 3i up the middle or choke your driver. (The R11 with 4 moves down does pretty good-was able to get it to 12 feet once.) The par 5s turn into mid iron approaches but are still good birdie opps. Callaway balls may change this a bit.

    Once you get past the no-3W problem it is really nice to know you have every single scenario covered from 220 yards to 6 yards, any lie. Low winds makes this doable but I doubt High winds will make it practical.

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