first shot ..my fault..second shot in rough going uphill 40-50% 122 yds to pin...I know how bad the pw is..so I used 9iron...went 2yd....got mad..used pw..went 2yd....really got mad, just grabbed my 8 and hit it 17 yds past pin....but hey i got it on the green....result double bogey...I was only 2 or 3 over..which is good for me lately before this hole......what the heck do you use when you get on the rough going up hill? what kind of shot?...I know if you get on the green, you don't have to worry about this....usually don't have a problem with this hold...I used starter clubs and starter balls this round...Beings the sweet spot is so hard to hit on the meter anymore and my ping is not forgiving with good balls..I figured what the crap...go back to basics and I was actually doing better..my scores have went to crap in the last two weeks and Ive been playing non stop.....even my friend said that he is doing so badly that he has cut back on playing...........I will keep trying...but getting tired of it.. any suggestions..i finally got my frustrations out for now.........thanks