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Another way to Putt

Fri, May 29 2020 7:17 AM by pdiehm. 41 replies.
  • kavvz Canada
    2,079 Posts
    Sun, Feb 24 2019 12:41 PM


    if its down elevations do we add.

    No, subtract.

  • kavvz Canada
    2,079 Posts
    Sun, Feb 24 2019 12:42 PM


    if its down elevations do we add.


    Naturali mentioned that initially.  

    You subtract whether its uphill or downhill because if you subtract a negative number its actually adding.

    9 minus  -6  = 15

    9 minus 6 = 3

    Long putts are going to be less accurate IMO especially if the dots are moving at different speeds along the way.  Naturali talks about that earlier as well.

  • alanliam South Africa
    231 Posts
    Sun, Feb 24 2019 11:31 PM


  • canibirdie Australia
    65 Posts
    Mon, Feb 25 2019 2:40 AM

    Can confirm this works heres the replay thanks for sharing this
    Putt Replay

  • mega1byte United States
    299 Posts
    Tue, Feb 26 2019 3:24 AM

    This technique seems really good BUT, once again (at least in my own opinion) when your in a game there is only so much time that you have to putt (unless your playing 90 sec shot clock). (and who wants that, lol)

    Now if you playing by yourself another story. (but that makes for a lonely game, lol)

    One needs to develop your putting by look and feel (especially if your using a 45 sec clock in a game.) sure you take in consideration of the green speed and elevation but judging the slope angle and dot speed, setting up slide ruler can be very time consuming.

    Now, before all you pro's jump my throat ,, I'm no expert, my stats can  tell you that! lol

    1.85 putts per hole, almost 30% one putt, 55% two putt, but eventually getting better. ( that's is based upon my approach % getting better and my distance to hole becoming better.)

    So please no harsh comments needed, If you are playing by yourself this approach would probably work well. Great write up and appreciated time put into this.



  • adrob2 United States
    519 Posts
    Tue, Feb 26 2019 4:10 AM

    I find this putting method very effective for those tough breaking 3-7 footers.  With longer putts or double breaking putts I often just use feel and my gut.  Also, happy birthday to this thread:)

  • borntobesting United States
    8,611 Posts
    Thu, Feb 28 2019 4:03 AM


    1. First calculate (green speed divided by dot speed) - save that number
    2. Then calculate (distance minus elevation) - save that number
    3. Then multiply the 2 numbers you get in step 1 and 2
    4. Then divide that number you get in 3 by 1.25


    Should equal 31.2


    After trying it some I took the formula 1 step farther. Taking the grid size on my monitor into consideration I multiply the figure by 0.25 which gives me the number of inches to aim from the hole for my monitor. It works quite well. 

    So in the computation shown it would be 31.2 X 0,25 giving me 7.8. I would then aim 7 13/16 inches from the center of the hole. 

    It would be great if someone with good math and programming skills could create a spreadsheet for this formula. And if someone has already created a spreadsheet for this please share it with us. 

  • TopShelf2010 United States
    9,509 Posts
    Thu, Feb 28 2019 4:29 AM


  • DoctorLarry United States
    3,419 Posts
    Thu, Feb 28 2019 11:03 AM


    It would be great if someone with good math and programming skills could create a spreadsheet for this formula

    Sounds like a task for Goldeena.



    UPDATE: I fired off a PM to ask her if she would be interested

    Oh, no............

    Multi-screen response incoming!

  • goldeena Thailand
    1,946 Posts
    Thu, Feb 28 2019 6:01 PM



    please send me an email don and you can collect it




    I have also added a universal putting power predictor to it - as long as you put the green speed in to the first box the putting power predictor will be accurate 'enough' (within 5 feet over all parameters) over any green speed, distance and any slope. It is in some ways more advanced than La-Ferr-19, but still only a best fit for all.


    Don has to pick it up from my personal email and distribute it to anyone that is interested - the Universal putting power predictor is a 'good fit' but I would advise you put an extra foot on to Champ 13 speed greens in the range 15 to 20 feet.


    Other than that I am delighted with the fit.




    I have added this method to my piece on the seminal works of WGT putting and it can be found on my profile page.