It has been said MANY times . It has been implied MANY more .
No, it actually hasn't Paul- Not by me, not in this conversation or any other.
For you to presume to know the many thousands round history of any player is ridiculous . And weird . I don't think your findings are accurate .
You are a grade A ______ if that is what you take from what I said...
I didn't presume anything, when I played one of these people- If there game seemed off I would look at stats/score history where inevitably the person would shoot 26s on something called an "Avg Buster" CC tourney but could barely break par on any regular course.
A good player can use red tees to get better at the game, because it forces you into different shots. A bad player can use red tees to attain a rank they could never attain on tier tee's. This is deeper and I am overly simplifying it but does it really matter?
Where was that point again?
This all started because I relayed HOW I FELT WHEN I FIRST BEGAN PLAYING. I now understand who they are and why I was seeing players whose skills did not match their rank. I only cared because I didn't understand how they could make those ranks without being good at the game.
I do not care at all if someone wants to be a red tee Champion or TC, It just confused me when I first played- that is all.
If your contention is a bad player who uses red tees to make a higher rank is just as good a player as anyone else...I am not sure how to respond to that.
Is that right ? What numbers led you to believe this ? I don't remember seeing a list/stat of individual drive yardages .
There is a stat for drive length average .
What stat gave you the impression that " they can't hit the long ball " ?
Not a stat, I actually play this game- hence why I "believe my lying eyes".
Im not talking about drives dude- talking about long irons and 3wds onto the greens- Neither gets used or practiced on red tees- SO one paying attention might see this quite easily. Anyone who plays Alt Shot knows how the course can change due to distance of shots and that it has to be accounted for.
You are defending the idea that someone can JUST play short tee's using a driver and wedge 90% of the time and then play a normal length course without suffering from never hitting an iron or 3wd onto the greens...That is delusional.