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Tue, Mar 16 2021 6:29 PM (104 replies)
  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 5:35 AM

    dedBuNNy:
    What is actually kinda sad is that they seem content to leave the game as it was, not adding in anything new in the way of game mechanics that would really improve the game and make is seem fresh,

     

      If that's the case . Maybe it's lack of know how ?

  • wedge0837
    786 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 7:04 AM

    BMX123:

    Did WGT gift everyone some sleeves and some gear for our inconvenience?

    No what WGT gifted for all this runaround was temporary Premier membership for 30 days, some ball effects, and a few of the Attribute boxes for clothing upgrades etc.

    That's it. That's all you get. And of course the runaround. 

    But wait, Torrey Pines is coming on the Spring! RUN FORREST RUN!

    Now go play your coin games and make WGT some money so they can invest it into Elon Musks rocket boosters, because these dudes sure know how to burn a game up. 

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 7:37 AM

    wedge0837:
    No what WGT gifted for all this runaround was temporary Premier membership for 30 days, some ball effects, and a few of the Attribute boxes for clothing upgrades etc.

      Was it an email ? Or a link ? Or a joke ?

  • ampass
    217 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 7:40 AM

    I’ve been playing since a few years now started mobile till a few months ago no NV. Don’t really have a problem with it, I don’t really post here but I’m reading occasionally and I don’t understand so many people are complaining  and moaning about a game I repeat a game. Does it have any flaws of course everything has flaws, but to read comments like the avatar is to big, I lost to a guy in a coin game ( what are worthless anyway), WGT is out to get me and so on. The game should be to have a good time and entertainment, but it seems to me a lot of people don’t have that since flash went away. If I start loosing fun I probably quit, but even if I shoot a lousy round I have fun and get to play with good and fun people. Am I a good player like waLKofLife young46, jsmithers and others( too many to name). No I’m not,  sometimes I shoot a decent score but that’s the fun of it, like with real golf. I’m a 8 handicap do I loose sometimes against higher handicaps, you bet I do. If perfection to a100% and never make mistakes is your goal I think golf in real life or virtual might be not for you. 

  • Robert1893
    6,861 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 7:44 AM

  • dedBuNNy
    1,846 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 8:02 AM

    pdb1:

      If that's the case . Maybe it's lack of know how ?

    In a roundabout way... Know-how costs money in game dev, no way around that. I have no idea who is working on the game, I'm only going by what I'm seeing and those things speak pretty loudly that the general working model is to maintain the status quo.

    Keeping player and game options to a minimum, because by introducing new mechanics they break VEM or they would operate outside of it. VEM is part of the game's system so if you're going to now have a feature for say moving your character's stance or open and close the club face, those have to be part of the system or they're working outside it with no interference. That's IF it can even be incorporated. 

    Honestly I would have chosen to create a new game, new assets and proper coding, using basic physics engines for various aspects of the game, just enough to keep it challenging without being able to use simple calculations for pinpoints accuracy resulting in unrealistic scoring. Keep the appearance of the current game, courses and layout and of course they already have the revenue model in place so not like that's going to go away. 

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 8:03 AM

    ampass:
    The game should be to have a good time and entertainment,

     

    :clapping:

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 8:09 AM

    dedBuNNy:
    Keeping player and game options to a minimum, because by introducing new mechanics they break VEM or they would operate outside of it.

     

      I don't think that is it . VEM is used widespread . I am sure it is very adaptable .

     

    dedBuNNy:
    Honestly I would have chosen to create a new game, new assets and proper coding, using basic physics engines for various aspects of the game, just enough to keep it challenging without being able to use simple calculations for pinpoints accuracy resulting in unrealistic scoring. Keep the appearance of the current game, courses and layout

     

      I and many others quite agree with that . And have expressed those same sentiments for more than a year .

      Never a response or an acknowledgement .

      But well said again DB .

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 8:29 AM

      I really like your analogies DB . With your credentials your opinions are better described in an objective realist manner .

     

    dedBuNNy:

    The short answer to all of those questions is - Nothing is stopping them from addressing all of those issues. Nothing except money, which is required to hire/contract competent designers, artists, coders etc. 

    Real game dev is expensive and really labor intensive and requires skilled people.There is no doubt in my mind that there is no real proper budget allocated for this game, it's being hammered together in a way that it can be made somewhat playable with enough features from the old game to keep the core group of paying players interested and attract new players to the game. The top 5%, the credit winners bring in nothing for TG in the way of revenue. That's not a knock or anything, it's just the way it is.

    Someone seriously dropped the ball with this from a project management standpoint. Or they were simply told to 'Do what you can to make it playable as best you can, work with what and the staff you have'. Neither of those scenarios is good, not at all. This game never should have been released as a replacement for the Flash game in the state it's in.

      But

    dedBuNNy:
    I will say this though, all the people bitching about the core functionality of the game, that it's 'impossible to play now' , need to watch Young46's stream to see how playable the game is.

      Thanks for your comments .

     

  • wedge0837
    786 Posts
    Wed, Jan 6 2021 8:52 AM

    pdb1:
    Was it an email ? Or a link ? Or a joke ?

    No pdb1, it was in my inbox of the new game as I had been using the PC App off and on pretty much since they debuted the new game. 

    Of course any gift I get from WGT is great, I am always grateful in the end. 

    Not sure if those that didn't use the new app before Dec30, 2020 would be eligible. Doubt it. Actually I received the Premier Membership twice, both for 30 days. 

    I am disappointed with the Multi Player aspect of the game, however I am sure that come Spring! they will have it all up and running for Torrey Pines. 

    Till then.... 

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