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Ending Flash the way WGT does...

Fri, Jan 8 2021 3:52 AM (102 replies)
  • pdb1
    21,016 Posts
    Sun, Oct 11 2020 2:12 PM

    Kenher01:

    pdb1:

     Cross platform can only be played between Mobile and PCEA . Flash has never been included .

    Not true, many months ago Crossplatform between PCEA & Flash was added in an early Update to PCEA

    Ken

      I had also heard the same thing Ken . And have asked the same question in these Forums several times .

      I have had players tell me both .

      But the truth is that PCEA was invented for the sole purpose of cross platform play with Mobile .

      Have not heard many success stories of PCEA and or Mobile able to join with Flash .

      My system will not allow it . But that's not saying much .

      More power to those who can .

      Many months ago ( like 10 months ) PCEA was introduced to WGT . With the pretense that cross platform play would be possible with Mobile .

      I don't even think that worked very well .According to posts I have read here .

    WIKIPEDIA

    " In video games with online gaming functionality, cross-platform play, crossplay, or cross-play describes the ability of players using different video game hardware to play with each other simultaneously. It is commonly applied to the ability for players using a game on a specific video game console to play alongside a player on a different hardware platform such as another console or a computer. A related concept is cross-save, where the player's progress in a game is stored in separate servers, and can be continued in the game but on a different hardware platform."

      Which is a costly investment . WGT refused to authorize spending that would improve the game to allow " cross platform play ".

      What they did was essentially improve their Mobile platform to allow PC play .

  • Kenher01
    1,077 Posts
    Sun, Oct 11 2020 2:38 PM

    pdb1:

    Kenher01:

    pdb1:

     Cross platform can only be played between Mobile and PCEA . Flash has never been included .

    Not true, many months ago Crossplatform between PCEA & Flash was added in an early Update to PCEA

    Ken

      I had also heard the same thing Ken . And have asked the same question in these Forums several times .

      I have had players tell me both .

      But the truth is that PCEA was invented for the sole purpose of cross platform play with Mobile .

      Have not heard many success stories of PCEA and or Mobile able to join with Flash .

      My system will not allow it . But that's not saying much .

      More power to those who can .

      Many months ago ( like 10 months ) PCEA was introduced to WGT . With the pretense that cross platform play would be possible with Mobile .

      I don't even think that worked very well .According to posts I have read here .

    No one in our CC has any issues, Post World Cup when the majority of us in The CC dropped Flash & switched to PCEA a small minority stuck with Flash & since that old Update which brought in Crossplatform between PCEA & Flash we've been able to play any Multiplayer game against each other.

    I did see Champ in a Stream recently say that Mobile will eventually be able to play directly (MP, AS etc, etc) against PCEA in the future

    Ken

  • pdb1
    21,016 Posts
    Sun, Oct 11 2020 3:05 PM

    Kenher01:
    No one in our CC has any issues, Post World Cup when the majority of us in The CC dropped Flash & switched to PCEA a small minority stuck with Flash & since that old Update which brought in Crossplatform between PCEA & Flash we've been able to play any Multiplayer game against each other.

     

      Nice .

  • SamSpayed
    2,623 Posts
    Sun, Oct 11 2020 4:31 PM

    pdb1:
    But the truth is that PCEA was invented for the sole purpose of cross platform play with Mobile .

    It would actually be more accurate to say that PCEA was invented to replace the Flash version of the game, since Flash support is going away.  Cross-platform play (PC vs. mobile) has always been only a secondary concern.

    pdb1:
    Have not heard many success stories of PCEA and or Mobile able to join with Flash .

    I posted this summary of what cross-platform play is currently possible in another thread:

    • PCEA players can play games with Flash players (multiplayer games:  stroke, match, skins, AS)
    • PCEA players can play games with Mobile players (coin games or H2H)
    • Flash players cannot play games with Mobile players

    In addition, as Ken mentioned, WGT is working on adding more cross-platform (PC vs. mobile) play options.

    Hope this helps.

  • Tigerpaw509
    1,193 Posts
    Mon, Oct 12 2020 7:36 AM

    Only cross platform play is in the H2H coin rooms most of us PCEA want to play stroke alt match and skins with mobile/tablet.

     

     

  • EK2019
    26 Posts
    Mon, Oct 12 2020 8:31 AM

    handygandy:

    I agree and feel the same way. Change is not always good and it has been the death of online gaming platforms before. When FLASH ends, so do I. 

     

    I agree 100%, the desktop version is like going back 15 years.... 

    I sure hope WGT get's on it. I just played a Desktop game and it is horrible. I am not spending one penny more until they get a decent similar game as the Flash Version. 

    The Desktop version is very clunky, the graphics are really bad and just not the same experience. On a side note, if flash is being removed what is the new player for internet browsing on any site?

    Thanks and it was nice over the years playing WGT, but Come January I most likely will not be playing anymore.

     

  • pdb1
    21,016 Posts
    Mon, Oct 12 2020 11:05 AM
    SamSpayed:
    It would actually be more accurate to say that PCEA was invented to replace the Flash version of the game, since Flash support is going away.  Cross-platform play (PC vs. mobile) has always been only a secondary concern.

      I'm afraid that is just not true Sam . Probably for 8 years before you came along . There have been dozens of posts , threads and discussions . Regarding the urgency for " cross platform play ". Between Flash and Mobile . Many many players practically insisting that this feature is a must .

      For years the response was none to nil ( as usual ) .

      As a replacement for Flash to be sure . But there had to be some hooks to convince the WGT Universe .

      It would seem a waste of time and a bit ironic to go through the trouble of creating a cross platform friendly version of Flash . 1 year before terminating that version permanently .

      But if you say that is what happened . You have one testimony from Ken that this is the case .

      I have to wonder how close to a gaming system one would have to have . To actually be able to utilize that feature .

      Even if that is the case . Why tease the users with a temporary high end feature for less than 1 year . It seems doubtful and an irrational scenario . Big surprise .

      Here is one review of the current state .
     
    Kenher01:
    No one in our CC has any issues, Post World Cup when the majority of us in The CC dropped Flash & switched to PCEA a small minority stuck with Flash & since that old Update which brought in Crossplatform between PCEA & Flash we've been able to play any Multiplayer game against each other.

      Here is another .

    Tigerpaw509:

    Only cross platform play is in the H2H coin rooms most of us PCEA want to play stroke alt match and skins with mobile/tablet.

     

      Regardless of what is correct . If " cross platform play " is possible ? It is still a very selective , hard to use feature . And a flash in the pan . As it will disappear even faster than what it took to get it started .

      If what I am hearing is correct . Multiplayer between PCEA and Mobile is not happening .  They are the same platform . Not " cross platform play " .

      It seems that WGT research and development and the QA team . Are not even able to get the basics functioning correctly .

      Sounds like a very frustrating future .

  • oneeyedjohn
    9,311 Posts
    Tue, Oct 13 2020 3:53 AM

    pdb1:

    My God, u really do like the sound of your own voice don't ya.

    talk about verbal diarrhea.

  • pdb1
    21,016 Posts
    Tue, Oct 13 2020 4:28 AM

    oneeyedjohn:

    pdb1:

    My God, u really do like the sound of your own voice don't ya.

    talk about verbal diarrhea.

      No . It's called thinking out loud . These new changes are affecting many people and things .

      WGT isn't making this easy . These are the Forums that we sort out what's really going on .

      For a good many years . What little WGT says . Is not always what it appears . This new transition is the biggest betrayal yet .

      I am one that for many reasons . Has found PCEA unplayable .

      Which should make you happy to note . Soon I will have no reason to express my thoughts and opinions here .

      Not a moment too soon . Right ?

      Wish you the best John .

     

      Paul

  • tramilleo
    1,578 Posts
    Tue, Oct 13 2020 4:39 PM

    love this

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