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Tue, Apr 11 2017 8:36 PM (67 replies)
•  pdb1 22,500 Posts Fri, May 29 2015 8:06 PM

Tips like these are helpful . But aim is still getting in my way . No matter how many times I ding , the ball isn't going to go anywhere near the hole if I don't move the flag to the right spot . So , short of serious mathematical calculations how do you know how far to move the damn flag so when you ding it goes in the hole ?

Balance works with the putter's precision rating and represents consistency throughout the different distance increments of your putter.  The higher the balance rating, the more you can rely on the ball consistently going the distance you've struck your putt, especially so on longer putts.  Balance also works with forgiveness in a very similar manner to help reign in the effect of off-center hits, also making them react more consistently on longer putts.

Club Forgiveness v Precision
Ultimately you want precision, if you can handle the meter speed.  The more precise the club, they more it will go where you want it when you ding a shot.

Forgiveness shifts the precision circle left or right (and usually short) depending on how much you mishit and what the forgiveness rating of the club is.  Clubs with lesser forgiveness ratings shift the circle left/right more on mishits.
This is why (especially on low precision clubs) you can mishit slightly right of the mark and have the ball go left instead.  Mishitting right shifts the circle to the right, but part of the circle is still "leftover" on the left side of the flag, so it has the potential to land there

The game is pretty simple.  Precision controls your accuracy.  Imagine it's like a circle that surrounds the flagstick when you aim at it.  The size of that circle is related to the precision rating.  The higher the rating the smaller the circle.  Your ball can land anywhere in the circle on a dinged shot (left or right, long or short).  It will ALWAYS land in the circle on a ding shot, though sometimes it may land in the center of the circle and sometimes it may land on the very outer edge or anywhere in between those two points.  When it lands on the outer edge this is what you guys have come to know as "the beast".  Was the shot pre-programmed? Does it know you're standing on the 17th hole at Kiawah?  No, it's just unfortunate timing.  The result you see is the logical spread dictated by the precision rating of the club over 100 or 1,000 or 10,000 shots taken on the site.  No matter how big or small the sample it'samazingly consistent because it is after all only a simple mathematical formula.  The shot data is spread out amongst all users, so there will be times when you run into a lot of "edge cases" (aka deviations, aka outside edge of the precision circle) and times where you seemingly can't miss the center (even when you mishit).  This is the ebb and flow of the game and it's always been there.  In the short term you will have "bad" days and "good" days.  In the long term (providing they are using the same clubs) any one player will see the same amount of "edge cases" or "deviations" that the rest of the players do..

•  pdb1 22,500 Posts Sun, May 31 2015 2:22 PM

pdb1:
Tips like these are helpful . But aim is still getting in my way . No matter how many times I ding , the ball isn't going to go anywhere near the hole if I don't move the flag to the right spot . So , short of serious mathematical calculations how do you know how far to move the damn flag so when you ding it goes in the hole ?

IN CASE ANYONE HADN'T NOTICED . I posed a question here . Any thoughts ? Comments ? Tips ? Suggestions ?

•  why9 907 Posts Sun, May 31 2015 2:35 PM

pdb1:
IN CASE ANYONE HADN'T NOTICED . I posed a question here . Any thoughts ? Comments ? Tips ? Suggestions ?

short answer is it doesn't fkn matter  .... may as well be asking how hard to pull the handle on a slot machine

•  MBaggese 15,344 Posts Sun, May 31 2015 3:15 PM

pdb1:
Any thoughts ? Comments ? Tips ? Suggestions ?

Reopen this forum, there's two or three pinned "putting tips" on top.

•  pdb1 22,500 Posts Sun, May 31 2015 3:16 PM

? Ok thanx . Read them all . No help .

•  JCSneed 54 Posts Sun, May 31 2015 7:02 PM

•  11BC2 555 Posts Wed, Jun 24 2015 12:03 PM

Agreed JC!  It's the formula I use most of the time (Tekoma Vertex on longer and or snaky putts hits the spot).  If you have any questions about the link above ask JC or myself.  I've gotten very good at breaking down the dot flow into a precise % in order to streamline where I should be aiming.

•  pdb1 22,500 Posts Wed, Aug 10 2016 10:04 PM

15 months later . I think I putt worse now than I did then .

•  TopShelf2010 10,372 Posts Wed, Aug 10 2016 10:32 PM

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•  pdb1 22,500 Posts Thu, Oct 13 2016 8:19 PM

I get that balance and precision are so important . Every time I read about them . And the overlapping circles . The only thing I get from that is more clarity of why sometimes if i hit right , it misses left and visa versa .