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#### *Putting by the Numbers - UPDATE*

Mon, Feb 18 2019 2:32 PM (88 replies)
•  11BC2 555 Posts Wed, Feb 7 2018 12:44 PM

el3n1:

Looks like all the original post were cleared out ...is this info still out there? young46 references it but i am trying to find original source material

Just go to wayback machine.  Here is the link to retrieve every post you'll need:  https://web.archive.org/web/20170221072920/http://www.wgt.com:80/forums/t/270430.aspx

•  TopShelf2010 10,531 Posts Wed, Feb 7 2018 2:03 PM

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•  YankeeJim 25,827 Posts Wed, Feb 7 2018 3:37 PM

TopShelf2010:

Whoa... that's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing.

Don

Second that!  :-)

•  el3n1 4,273 Posts Wed, Feb 7 2018 4:43 PM

thanks for sharing...I have heard this referenced in other videos and forum posts but have not been able to get a solid grasp of it.  Also despite trying to replicate putts observed by others I am unable to do so...

It seems the first trick is finding a green that has the specified break of dot flow and also 10 ft that also isn't necessarily up or down hill.  It seems you have to have a side hill lie to get something along these line for a 10 ft putt.

Any suggestions as it sounds like the starting point to find out if this still works or whether WGT has tweaked things that make it more difficult...

•  11BC2 555 Posts Wed, Feb 7 2018 9:35 PM

el3n1:
It seems the first trick is finding a green that has the specified break of dot flow and also 10 ft that also isn't necessarily up or down hill.  It seems you have to have a side hill lie to get something along these line for a 10 ft putt.
The tricky part is finding out how the speed of the dots translate to a specific multiplier on your machine.  I suggest fiddling around with dot counts at 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 seconds and assign them a multiplier.  On my machine those numbers translate to 180% (2), 140% (3), 100% (4), 80% (5), 70% (6), and 60% (7).  Anything below that I can usually just tell.

You want to practice this on holes that have one, even flow (probably not on Kiawah either ^).  Use practice mode and putt view to do this.  Keep at it until you get the correct line and then write down the corresponding speed of dots with the count.

Here's a quick 9 minute video explaining my version of JC Snead putting:

•  64 Posts Thu, Feb 8 2018 10:50 AM

Hi 11B, the calculate from video...

you do 11fts x 4sec how is the calc? can you give me the total equation, thanks

•  kavvz 2,195 Posts Thu, Feb 8 2018 12:15 PM

Thank you very much for posting that, and taking the time to make that video.  Excellent stuff -- much appreciated.

The only thing that is not 100% clear to me is what you're looking at/counting when timing the dots.  It looks like you change view to get the dots starting to move, and then count the time it takes them to move from the centre of a grid to the grid line lined up with the cup at aim point 0.  Is that correct?  i.e.  the time is the time it takes dots to move half a grid?

•  11BC2 555 Posts Thu, Feb 8 2018 8:36 PM

kavvz:
i.e.  the time is the time it takes dots to move half a grid?
Exactly ;).

@ Arthur

I say this with no negative tone;  in the video I explain your question pretty thoroughly.  The theme from start to finish was Distance, multiplied by speed of the dots, equals aim point.  10F putt with zero elevation with a 140% multiplier would be 10*1.4=  14 Aim point.  10F putt with zero elevation with a 60% multiplier is 10*.6=  6 Aim point.

•  64 Posts Thu, Feb 8 2018 9:52 PM

Thank you for answer and sorry is not my first language, whe you say 140% and 60% that it mens if you *** 3 seconds dots moving is, 10fts x30%? i dont understood the %.

is 140% 14seconds dots speed? and 60% is 6 sec, sorry i see the video a lot but i cant yet comprend yet

•  64 Posts Thu, Feb 8 2018 10:03 PM

sorry and thanks

I do not understand how to pick the 120% 60%, how do I know what the percentage is in a fall? if the half-grid drop is 3 seconds, what is the% for 3?