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  • northernpainter
    1,462 Posts
    Fri, May 11 2018 11:46 AM

  • doylerc
    1,061 Posts
    Sun, May 13 2018 11:36 AM

    As there is only 5% European members in the CC is that because of Time Zone difference and members not being able to play with each other?

    Doyler

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Sun, May 13 2018 5:14 PM

     

    doylerc:

    As there is only 5% European members in the CC is that because of Time Zone difference and members not being able to play with each other?

    Doyler

      Very odd and timely . Your inquiry . As it is the current discussion in our Cc forum as well .

    There is no particular reason for any % of types of players here .

      there is a problem with players not being able to play one another though .

      That is caused by a lack of commitment to this format .

      There was a time when multiplayer was prominent here in this CC . And was one of the main draws and brought a GR8 deal more excitement to an already strong and fun CC with a wide range of variety to offer its diverse members .

      But at some point in time . As has happened throughout all of WGT . There has been a strange drop in popularity in multiplayer site wide .

      There are various theories and reasons for this . Including the aforementioned lack of commitment .

      But there are other factors in play as well .

      The invite icon has been a big problem from the start of WGT .

      Its placement on the WGT tab page . Requires one to be staring at the icon at all times so as not to miss the little tiny green icon when an invite has been made .

      At this moment in response to your inquiry it is above my line of sight . I could be missing several invites as I respond to you .

      And has been the cause of many disputes oif players claiming to be available but not responding to invites . This occurs hundreds of times per day .

      A better location for the icon . On the top and bottom of the page would solve that missing the icon issue .

      A pop up for invites . Would also be an alternative .

      We have had as many as 40 % European members in our CC at times .

      But our membership is like a revolving door . As we ask a certain amount of accountability here .

      We do not require the use of any passes at any time . That is completely up to the player and his or her personal needs for equipment and the XP race in general .

      We do not have any mandatory minimums for events or tournaments

      Because of the fact that there is a good many players / members that are aware that there are many components that go into making a group successful .

      We do ask for some accountability . in the way of presence and communication .

      This seems to be a very hard task for the average WGTer . As we have had enough players to make 2 250 members CC's come through here . But they would be non playing and non communicating CC's .

      Which we are not .

      We are a 50 to 60 member CC . Which the size in itself makes multiplayer a harder format to play .

      There is much more to VOTSCC than the multiplayer . Which is something i do encourage and always have . I still get some in CC multiplayer in . but mostly I play with my WGT friends . Which is as fun and satisfying as any .

      But even the typical site wide efforts to play multiplayer have diminished over the last couple years . many times impossible to get that 4th player .

      More tell tale signs of a struggling format .

      So sad .

      Paul

  • BobbyWiser
    10 Posts
    Sun, May 13 2018 6:19 PM

    very well put paul, i find it easier to play a Multiplayer game , with 3 other Total Srangers.

    Cause........ 3 strangers  playin together, can be a real Cool Time

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Mon, May 14 2018 2:32 PM

      Thanx Bobby .

     

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Sat, May 19 2018 10:18 PM

    doylerc:

    As there is only 5% European members in the CC is that because of Time Zone difference and members not being able to play with each other?

    Doyler

      After I replied to you . I got to thinking that I wanted to point out that Time Zones do not have to be a factor or a barrier .

      In fact it may be easier to set up a round with someone half way around the world . Then with someone right under your nose .

      I don't think Europeans are not signing in to VOTSCC .

      My calculations have our CC with 36 % non Americans .

      FYI .

      36 % foreign . Sounds much better than 5 % European .

  • shampeee
    2 Posts
    Tue, May 22 2018 5:41 PM

    would like to join please!

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Wed, May 23 2018 1:49 PM

    shampeee:

    would like to join please!

      Your request has been accepted .

      Now you will need to check your WGT profile wall . To see the messages there that have been left for you .

      Respond to them accordingly .

      Once we are friended . You will also get PM's from my self and our tournament director .JimQ916

      These wall posts and messages . Will all appear in your email that you signed into WGT with .

      Please enjoy

      Paul

  • Next260
    2,070 Posts
    Mon, May 28 2018 6:43 AM

    We are a 57 member level 18 very active club.

    If you are looking to improve your game , move up in tiers or just have fun with a great group of people.

    Come check out Valley of the Sun Casual Club.

  • Next260
    2,070 Posts
    Sat, Jun 2 2018 2:36 PM

    Next260:

    We are a 57 member level 18 very active club.

    If you are looking to improve your game , move up in tiers or just have fun with a great group of people.

    Come check out Valley of the Sun Casual Club.

    Bump to the top for a fine club

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