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Sun, Jul 25 2021 9:27 PM (18 replies)
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  • garyk49
    1,982 Posts
    Sun, May 30 2021 9:13 AM

    ScottHope:

    How do other game vendors deal with this issue, or do they just not care how many accounts one person may have?

    game vendors is not quite the correct terminology.  More along the line of game client(hosting site)(Steam, and Origin are 2 of the big ones, but there are also others)  If I read Steam and I believe most others, correctly, they don't really care about multiple accounts.  But each account has to have a different email address associated with it.

    Carlos mentioned Lan playing.  That could be 2 different ways, either local or remote.  Local sometimes back when, was a pain in the butt, as some games required each computer on the lan had to have a cd in its drive for the game to operate.  Back then it was also a royal pain in the butt to copy cd's due to copy guard being used on them.  Even remote required each computer to have a valid copy of the game in its drive, but then that was usually different households.  That is why multiplayer is so big on hosting sites, but still you need to have the game, within your list of downloaded games.  But it is much easier to play now then to try and configure the lan to work correctly.

     

  • ScottHope
    7,857 Posts
    Sun, May 30 2021 9:56 AM

    Thanks for the info guys.  ; )

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Sun, May 30 2021 11:55 AM

      I have extensive experience with players with multiple accounts in the same household .

      In the beginning . There were many many Husband , Wife , Father , Son , Uncle , Daughter ,Cousin , Nephew , etc . Multiple household accounts all over WGT .

      When and if there was ever a question about that validity . And only a question on that exact issue . The parties in question would then need to verify ID .

      Since this scenario is very wide spread throughout WGT . This has come up a lot in the early years .

      So this is a very real thing throughout WGT .

      It started to become a problem . When and if 1 particular player had an issue beyond ID . That would red flag the IP .

      Once that has happened . No other accounts are accepted with that or even similar IP's .

      Even if they are legitimate and have the ID to prove it .

      Over time I saw upwards of a dozen accounts disabled . For some unknown reason to the user . No signs of cheating . Or other accounts for most of them .

      A couple of them . At the same time as trying to prove identification . Created new accounts . To continue to play the game they loved so much . Not here to be a threat . But possibly guilty of association with a family member previously red flagged .

      Sometime around 2015 . WGT just went on a disabling spree . I know of several users that could not have possibly had an issue . But were disabled .

      There was a very popular CC owner . Whose account was disabled out of the blue . His one and only WGT account . And even he could not contact them after the disabling .There was a Geometry Teacher from Portugal . An art student from South Africa . An architect student from Australia . A housewife . And several others .

      I am not sure what WGT's explanation on that is . No one was ever responded to .

      But prior to all of that . In 2014 . One of the busybodies in these forums . Decided that some of the members of my CC was a multi accounter .

      There was DBlankity , JDBlankity , JMBlankity . I already knew it was D , his brother and the brother in law . Or something like that . And the older brother has MS .

      But they got called out by one of our buddies here .( Which BTW I was not happy about ) .

      And the Blankity's had to prove themselves . Which they did . With no issues . And the Blankity's are still here .

      But after that . It seemed that no one had a prayer to ID themselves .

      I assume that this eventually snowballed into a nightmare of somehow red flagged IP's . That may or may not have rightfully been red flagged . And became too many to handle . And were therefore just disabled and ignored .

    Please see

    SOME OF OUR FRIENDS DELETED BUT NOT FORGOTTEN

  • pdiehm
    211 Posts
    Tue, Jul 20 2021 4:39 AM

    My stepson tried playing WGT here at the house and got deleted.  Even after going back and forth with the powers that be that he was indeed 17 years old, very much a real person.  Their reasoning for banning was that it's me playing, which it wasn't.  The kid would sit there and watch me play, and I explained things to him.  When he got his character up and going, he was scoring well, not great, but well because he knew some of the intricacies of the game.  

    This apparently was multi-playing, and his character was banned.  

  • Wutpa
    4,771 Posts
    Tue, Jul 20 2021 8:06 AM

    pdiehm:

    My stepson tried playing WGT here at the house and got deleted.  Even after going back and forth with the powers that be that he was indeed 17 years old, very much a real person.  Their reasoning for banning was that it's me playing, which it wasn't.  The kid would sit there and watch me play, and I explained things to him.  When he got his character up and going, he was scoring well, not great, but well because he knew some of the intricacies of the game.  

    This apparently was multi-playing, and his character was banned.  

    Not uncommon, unfortunately. WGT get twitchy about two accounts having the same IP address.

    You could maybe get round that by running a VPN when your nephew plays, so it generates a different IP address from your home one.

  • el3n1
    3,962 Posts
    Tue, Jul 20 2021 5:27 PM

    pdiehm:
    Their reasoning for banning was that it's me playing, which it wasn't. 

    LOL - did you tell them, his hand was on the mouse and you were just "coaching' they seem to make exceptions for those cases - then again you have to be among the favored players for that to happen.

    -- this scenario is so lame - because WGT wants you to recommend and promote the game to more people or get "friends" or "family" to join but then they go about banning innocent people trying to bond with family members or in your case a step son. 

    go figure - it can be hard enough for adults to connect with their teenage kids - heaven forbid you find a video golf game where that may be possible but NO - playing golf with a family member is against the rules??? come on... they can let unethical and unsportsmanlike conduct slide in the biggest events - but this is where they draw the line.

    Give me a break.

    Also, of course a family member who can learn from another will pick more up and faster  - the so called "coaches" have proven that.

    so much for a game that encourages a family activity - is that too much like real golf where you can go out on the course and play the game together - bonding with one another?

    Sorry to hear about your situation. 

  • carlosdev
    2,436 Posts
    Tue, Jul 20 2021 7:28 PM

    Shame it happened to u. Poor little buddy of yours :( 

    Some of the logic of WGT is insane and do not exist anywhere in the world. No wonder they are so much progressive. 

    - Carl

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Wed, Jul 21 2021 5:35 AM

    carlosdev:
    Some of the logic of WGT is insane and do not exist anywhere in the world.

     Quite right .I witnessed quite a few of those random bans . Of innocent players .

      Also censoring and arbitrarily choosing what a player can post . Innocent , non threatening , truthful posts .

     

    carlosdev:
    No wonder they are so much progressive.

      They may have been at some point . But now they seem to be stuck in a rut .

    Wutpa:
    You could maybe get round that by running a VPN when your nephew plays, so it generates a different IP address from your home one.

      That has not been successful either . Evidently they have a way of sniffing those out as well .

  • JDGHOST
    5,329 Posts
    Sun, Jul 25 2021 9:27 PM

    el3n1:
    LOL - did you tell them, his hand was on the mouse and you were just "coaching' they seem to make exceptions for those cases - then again you have to be among the favored players for that to happen.

    😉

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