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Re: MP INVITES ALT SHOT , STROKE , COIN

Mon, May 24 2021 12:08 AM (26 replies)
  • JDGHOST
    5,402 Posts
    Sun, May 23 2021 4:02 AM

    pdb1:

    I know people random invite . Probably all day long .

      Is anyone else able or not able to join in random invites ?

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    Ummm That would be me!!

    I don't even bother to search anymore ...I have given up hope WGT will ever get the "Lobby" situation in ALL formats back to the way it was on "Flash"

    How those days were great ....NEVER struggled to find  random players OR to join games randomly!! And inviting friends was easy as pie ...If they were RED   or GRAYED OUT ...You simply didn't invite them .... GREEN  meant good to GO!! 

    This topic has been beat to death ...But it falls on def ears...

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Sun, May 23 2021 6:16 AM

    pdb1:

    I have been asking about invites in PCEA . All along . Especially CS . Not something they want to answer .

      What I want to know is if I am on the game client somewhere . How would I not be available for random multiplayer invites ?

      I want to be . I want to just show up or whatever happens when some one random invites .

    JDGHOST:

    Ummm That would be me!!

    I don't even bother to search anymore ...I have given up hope WGT will ever get the "Lobby" situation in ALL formats back to the way it was on "Flash"

    How those days were great ....NEVER struggled to find  random players OR to join games randomly!! And inviting friends was easy as pie ...If they were RED   or GRAYED OUT ...You simply didn't invite them .... GREEN  meant good to GO!! 

    This topic has been beat to death ...But it falls on def ears...

      That's what I thought . Thanks for your reply .

      " Beat to death and Falling on deaf ears . "

      I used to think that is what needed to be done " relentlessly " ." Continuously " . Until these things either got fixed . Or they told us otherwise .

      But now it is all to obvious . That these , like many other features . Are simply not going to happen .

      THE PCEA PLATFORM DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DELIVER A USER FRIENDLY MULTIPLAYER FORMAT .

      That's the bottom line .

      I'm probably one of the last to hold out hope .

      This is very disconcerting . Especially knowing how famous they are for not admitting errors or false claims .

      One thing their silence does . Is truly let down high hoped and dedicated members .

      As witnessed by me when I searched 5000 " TRAILBLAZERS " . And found 500 barely active ones . The remaining 4500 were inactive . Along with pages and pages more of recently non active players from 2010 on up . Totaling in the 10's of thousands . All through 2020 . That didn't see any hope or reason to hold out for more disappointment .

      Looks like they were right .

      For the MP rounds that I can play , ( mostly coins ) . I have been making efforts to bridge the communication gap . That has worked ,very slowly . But at the same time . It is not helping in the my most favored other popular MP formats . That I can almost never get a game in . Even winning a majority of the coin games . Is a poor substitute for the real MP formats . Although Alt Shot does not count either . They are played with a higher level of respect and comfort and golf rapport . Even the coin players , step up a little more when entering an Alt Shot round .

      But the battles with the invites in the MP's . Is just not worth it .

      However . There is an alternative route to playing in the other MP rounds .

      If one really wants to play . There are several Discord servers with much WGT activity .

      All one needs to do is put on their earbuds . Sign in to one of the Discord servers . And immediately you will hear activity . Requests for players in a match .

      With a simple " I'm in " . You start friending the player or players . And are accepting an invite in no time .

      It is really that simple . I just found this out recently . Then my old earbuds stopped working . It took me till yesterday to get a cheap pair . I now can go and try this out . Again .

      Discord is amazing BTW . It is the most user friendly app in sporting/gaming communication .

  • SamSpayed
    3,411 Posts
    Sun, May 23 2021 10:33 AM

    pdb1:

      What I want to know is if I am on the game client somewhere . How would I not be available for random multiplayer invites ?

      I want to be . I want to just show up or whatever happens when some one random invites .

    To make yourself available to be invited to a multi-player game:

    Go to the GAME MODES, select the multi-player game type you want, then click the blue JOIN A GAME button.

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Sun, May 23 2021 11:01 AM

    SamSpayed:

    pdb1:

      What I want to know is if I am on the game client somewhere . How would I not be available for random multiplayer invites ?

      I want to be . I want to just show up or whatever happens when some one random invites .

    To make yourself available to be invited to a multi-player game:

    Go to the GAME MODES, select the multi-player game type you want, then click the blue JOIN A GAME button.

      Okay . I am aware of that method . That is the only way ?  I guess so .

      What that does . Is puts me in the top host spot anyway . But unable to invite . Might as well have just created the game from the start . Which is what I do now .

      Thank you Sam .

      I wish they would put the search box back in the invite lobby . So other players can suggest other people they see green but I don't .

      I also think most of the online players on my friends list . Play on mobile . And cannot accept my invites .

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Sun, May 23 2021 11:39 AM

      As was the Opens at Chambers Bay and Merion and others .

      It is amazing the details we can all recognize . That WGT got so well .

      Kiawah looks exactly like when we play it .

      It's so cool .

  • JDGHOST
    5,402 Posts
    Sun, May 23 2021 8:56 PM

    pdb1:
      As witnessed by me when I searched 5000 " TRAILBLAZERS " . And found 500 barely active ones . The remaining 4500 were inactive . Along with pages and pages more of recently non active players from 2010 on up . Totaling in the 10's of thousands . All through 2020 . That didn't see any hope or reason to hold out for more disappointment .

    At the beginning of 2021  I had around 245 members (or so) in my club I gave everyone 90 days to become familiar  with the PCEA (If they weren't already) On April 1st I went thru my roster looking for who was still active ...


    I had 37 members that Played their last round on either 12/27/20 or 12/28 ...All of which were pretty active FLASH players ...So unfortunately I removed them ...It was not a coincidence none had been active post flash shut down ..So they jumped the WGT ship.. Then another 10-15 that stopped playing sometime in January or Feb  (I am assuming they gave PCEA a try but do to the inability to find multi-player games they gave up?)

     

    Now lets fast forward to about 3 weeks ago....A member started a thread in our forum basically complaining about that lack of random games he could join and OF COURSE he brought up the ALL GREEN friends list etc...etc... This thread became swamped with replies of similar complaints...

    So what's my point?? Glad you asked  I have 2 .... #1.... If MY club basically lost 20-25% of our players (And I mean gone from WGT altogether) Since the death of Flash  we can only imagine the total number throughout WGT Land...

    And #2...The more concerning issue is this.. Many WGTr's gave up when flash died without even giving the launcher a fair shake...I was almost one of um' (I'm sure some of you remember my ranting about the "New" version but let's not rehash the past) And I'm glad I stayed because I feel the "Playability" of the launcher is far better than flash ever was!! So those who bailed early on... That's their loss. BUT and this is a big BUT...They bailed due to the fact they maybe didn't want to adjust or they didn't like the look or playability of PCEA  compared to Flash and it was not what WE were all use to (PC players anyway)

    The players that are frustrated and giving up on our beloved game over "only" the last few months are leaving because of things not getting addressed and/or corrected .... 5 Months we have been complaining about many of the same issues and there STILL unfixed?? 

    The lobby situation is not 100% Fixed... I have still not had even ONE "Random" player show up to a skins lobby NOT ONE...  If you look at my play history you will see I play 80% skinner games and I mean a TON of um !! So to NEVER have even 1 random player show up in over 100 or more random invite attempts?? On flash I/we never had a problem we always found a random 4th when needed....Same issue in Match play ....I found  3 or 4 games out of maybe 50 attempts ...So SOMETHING is still not right ..

    And the number 1 Glaring Problem ....Drum roll please ........BING ..How can we STILL be talking about a friends list that shows EVERYONE ONLINE ONLY

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    I mean how hard could in be to to have 3 colors for an online friend????

    Whew ...Rant over 😞

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Mon, May 24 2021 12:08 AM

      I hear you JD . But if you remember . Before this 5 months . For over a year we had PersonalComputerEarlyAccess . Probably nearing 2 years by now . So many of us have had a good glimpse of what was coming .For a very long time .

    Welcome to WGT Early Access! . Was started , Mon, Sep 30 2019 1:04 PM

    WGT Desktop Early Access for Mac . Was started , Thu, Nov 21 2019 2:16 PM

      I think your numbers of 20 - 25 % are good . Maybe a little low . It is so hard to tell .

      I also don't think the early exiters are sorry they left .

      You also say you feel the playability is much better . Well I don't feel that way . Before the end of Flash I felt I had a chance to make TL . I have given up on TL .

      So that leaves solo , coins , CTTH's . Which I am not as good as I was in Flash . None of those 3 I enjoy .

      I attempt to play MP Stroke and Alt Shot everyday . Stroke is impossible . And I can sometimes get a full round of Alt in . But not everyday .

      I too was stunned at the direction WGT went with the adaptation to the mobile platform . As you may remember I thought it would be a disaster .

      Especially seeing with my own eyes . All the recently ( in the last 2 years ) inactive players . An astronomical number . I would find a very active " TRAILBLAZER " with 15 yes 15 pages of friends . 14 of which were inactive . I ran across similar to that , more than several times .

      But I stayed on . At first I really thought that it was just a matter of time before it would smooth out .

      I no longer feel that way . In fact . After each upgrade . It takes me longer to load the rendering . Because they are adding codes and files of course . That is what we are asking for . And with little to no headway . Where I am able to enjoy the formats I like .

      I now believe that this platform is very limited . Is not capable of the many features and intricate and specific options that we were used to .

      Some are saying that it already is . Maybe for them .

      But I had some problems with Flash since 2016 . When I was forced to play with WiFi . Very Low Definition . It is all I can get . Or afford . But the landline feed for the high speed ethernet . Is broken and corroded . The cable company COX refuses to pay for the repairs . As do the landowners in this section of the desert . And are in bad standing with each other . And always will be .

      But like I said . I had it much better with Flash as far as my connection and smoothness of play .

      I have said before . That I will eventually give up . I am sure that is true .

      I really have no idea how many others are in the same boat as me . I can get no affirmations or denials . Much like I felt running a Country Club . I can make all kinds of inquiries . That i know people read . But they have no intention of responding .

      There is also the high number of rounds that I attempt daily . With many failures . And a % of those are players quitting . Not willing to wait for my 60 to 90 second load rendering . Pre tee . The only delay in the game . But at least 1 per day will quit so fast . That my system can't keep up . The game thinks I didn't return in time and I get the forfeit and the loss of coins . Thankfully I know to screen shot every step of the way ( which is also a pain in the ass ) . And have submitted over 200,000 coins worth of false forfeits . And been reimbursed for about 50,000 .

      Many problems with game play . That I know I am not alone in . So the game itself is tough for me

      Then there is the years and years of moderation . For absolutely nothing . Moderation being separate from CS . Moderation refusing to talk with me .

      All the while I am providing QA with valuable data , screen shots and videos of various scenarios . That they are very thankful for . And if it were up to them . I would not be moderated .

      Moderating me has got to be the most wasted use of the moderation departments time that they have ever had . IDK if they are just stupid . Or maybe they are getting a good laugh . Between bong hits . There is no logic , reason or benefit to keeping me moderated .

      It is irritating to say the least . And if I actually thought about it . I would be gone based on that alone .

      But JD . Those are only yours and my viewpoints on these matters . There are so many different groups and genre's and perspectives on all of that . And only some of it has common threads . And that would be the love of Golf .

      That is not enough . Especially at this time . With the new crowd . Now becoming interested in making their rounds count . Moving up in tier . Lowering their average . Acquiring better equipment .

      There is only one solution for that . Since WGT dropped the ball with them .

      They must now learn and immerse themselves in the same adventure that we all went through and still adhere to . The system we created and perfected . Is the only system in town . That works .

      That is in the future and near future . And has barely started . That will certainly be interesting . And will take a good many years . Who knows what will lay on the other side of the creating of an all new WGT Universe .

      I do wish you , them , every one the best of success .

     

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