Thanks Tibbets, I remember you saying that you had an idea where you were when they started this stat and thought that, that was the case for you. Generally everyone else seems to float around 50 percent +/- 5%. My thought was, your approaches are so accurate and soft enough to roll in without the big bounce off the stick. Just another example of your talent I guess, since I haven`t seen others stats in this to be so good. Any hints and/or tips to this? I think my mantra of "never up, never in" is a little overboard when it comes to this, although I`ve tried to finesse it with the result of just being short with chips and pitches. Still looking for that "happy medium"! mefitz