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Re: Tier progression

Sat, Jul 31 2021 2:01 PM (148 replies)
  • AnaNikolaj
    281 Posts
    Fri, Jun 11 2021 2:21 PM

    Mythanatos:

    AnaNikolaj:

    wbrooh1946:

     

    I play "Legends" with an Av score of 150...??? HOW ?

     

     

    It means they only played and won a lot of coin games and reached a certain level and got tiered up without playing any stroke play ranked rounds. But tiering up that way ends in legend tiet... 

    you are  wrong. 

     

     

    That's my once a year out of the way then... ;-) 

  • DodgyPutter
    3,976 Posts
    Fri, Jun 11 2021 4:13 PM

    wbrooh1946:

    Hello Alosso,

    I have the same replies about moving up tiers.

    The telling reply you got is "some unknown algorithm MAY take you to Tour Master.

    Unlike playing the real game, to work our socks off to lower the handicap, it does not appear to be like that on a miserable WGT format.

    No-one explains in honest terms as to how improve our standind !!!

    I play "Legends" with an Av score of 150...??? HOW ?

    Good luck for your advancement.....let me know if it happens...and how?

    Ian Ferguson.

    I think you're saying you want to get to TM, there are are a couple of simple things I can tell you but only from the easily predictable ranked rounds side of it, I don't want big myth' after me too.

    You are saturated with an average of 64.38 and that's worked out on your 40 best rounds.  So in these 40 rounds there are 2,575 strokes and you need to get rid of 55 of them to get to an average of 63.

    The last two rounds you played were 18's at St A's; if you want to drop your average then play this sort of thing as two 9's.  Say you shoot 64; as an 18 that's what it will count as to your average but if the two 9's were 31 and 33 then played that way it would count as a 62 (the 66 would be discarded if you didn't have a higher score included in your average).  Playing 18 holes can never drop your average more than playing it as two nines.

  • jacktrade51
    9,231 Posts
    Mon, Jun 14 2021 8:08 PM

    Stop worrying about everyone else's tier.  One is a regular game player or a coin game one.

    Worry about your own progression however you choose to play the game.

    Tom.

  • jacktrade51
    9,231 Posts
    Mon, Jun 14 2021 8:09 PM

    Stop worrying about everyone else's tier.  One is a regular game player or a coin game one.

    Worry about your own progression however you choose to play the game.

    I might note I have learned long ago that on the regular game, average can be very misleading.  One has to dive into their record and figure out what they are playing.

    Tom.

  • DodgyPutter
    3,976 Posts
    Tue, Jun 15 2021 2:45 PM

    jacktrade51:
    Stop worrying about everyone else's tier.  One is a regular game player or a coin game one.

    I know you said it twice but still, are you talking to anyone in particular or the world in general? :-/

  • Randy6813
    3 Posts
    Thu, Jun 17 2021 6:26 PM

    what I want two know is . I'm at Master I don't really want two advance because it cost more money for clubs etc two compete, maybe not so much as tour master but it will if I get any higher then that. I have noticed that there is players that have played no ranked games and are at avg 150 and are moved to master legends etc , how is this possible just by going by the tier table that wgt puts out.  lets say you have a 70 avg and never play a ranked game and you are at say master , How come you cant stay there or if even lower stay there ? just asking , I understand the sand bagger example your trying two get away from but how does this tier really work ? 

  • alosso
    20,487 Posts
    Thu, Jun 17 2021 10:18 PM

    Randy6813:
    I have noticed that there is players that have played no ranked games and are at avg 150 and are moved to master legends etc , how is this possible just by going by the tier table that wgt puts out. 
    First, WGT never put any table of these informations out - that's us, the players!

    Avg. 150 shows that the player has never(!) played a ranked round - their tier is determined by their level plus achievements in "mobile" games, H2H, coin rooms. Their actions are outside said tables.

    Randy6813:
    lets say you have a 70 avg and never play a ranked game and you are at say master ,
    Quite impossible, because the 70 avg would certainly include ranked rounds.

    Randy6813:
    How come you cant stay there or if even lower stay there ?
    There's no way to step down in tiers - it just doesn't exist. You can stay there quite long if you play poorly and avoid mobile games, but the company may find a way to promote you, as they want to see you spending your credits!

    OTOH, it's fun to contend in the game, e.g. to break Par in Oakmont or Pebble - maybe worth some investment of yours?

  • Trtr30
    27 Posts
    Fri, Jun 18 2021 7:45 AM

    jacktrade51:

    Stop worrying about everyone else's tier.  One is a regular game player or a coin game one.

    They need not be mutually exclusive. I play several tournaments a month, play a lot of ranked rounds on various courses, and play coin games. I play for credits and the challenge with the first, play to improve my average and better learn the courses with the second, and meet others and test my skills against others with the third.

     

  • pdb1
    22,500 Posts
    Sat, Jul 31 2021 2:01 PM

    Randy6813:
    I'm at Master I don't really want two advance because it cost more money for clubs etc two compete, maybe not so much as tour master but it will if I get any higher then that.

      It doesn't matter which way you progress . You will progress .

      Whether it be

    The long time established WGT.com protocol .

      Or

    The random , makes no sense Mobile joke method .

      You will want to try to advance at least to the Legend Tier . Less of an effort is frowned upon . And considered a form of sandbagging . I know you did not intend that .

      What I am saying is raise your goals and expectations of yourself . To at least Legend . Only upgrade your equipment 1 more time . To some of the best . This is not the easy route . But you can do it . It will be worth it . You will be glad you did .

      This game is not designed to be able to hold back and stay in the middle tiers .

      The Mobile controversy has created a huge disparity . That will have to eventually level out . With the help and efforts of everyone .

      Good luck Randy . I hope my words made some sense .

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