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Forfeits & moving up

• DeanMac922 1 Posts

  Thu, Apr 23 2020 2:53 AM

  I have 2 questions....

  1) lately I have been playing people higher ranked & on last hole when I’m winning they forfeit (always seems to be legends) - is there an advantage or disadvantage to quitting?

   

  2) I am trying to move up from Master to Tour Master....what is criteria - money won or level of player I beat?

• Imahacker58 366 Posts

  Fri, Apr 24 2020 6:07 PM

  1) many are guilty of this, and yes I do it too if in an unwinnable position because since credits have become harder to get often it seems futile to waste the limited shots you get for the ball. Take it as a compliment, I do if someone quits on me, and it is probably more often than not that it is going to be a legend because they make up the largest tier of players.

   

  2) the tier requirements can be found in these forums, just takes a bit of time finding them. 

• jacktrade51 10,901 Posts

  Fri, Apr 24 2020 9:06 PM

  Amusing question coming from someone who has play 0 ranked rounds, and shows no AS or match play rounds.  Everyone quit on you?  I doubt it.

   

• MarchieB 1,525 Posts

  Sat, Apr 25 2020 1:45 PM

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• alosso 21,037 Posts

  Sat, Apr 25 2020 10:15 PM

  MarchieB:

  The only really known way to tier up is to start playing Ranked rounds (9/18 hole rounds) and getting your AVG down to the necessary numbers. See chart below.

  IBTD!

  While the chart is correct and this is the most traditional path, fully covered, there are a few others of which we have partial knowledge. Unfortunately, WGT is mute about them.

  - Matchplay win against higher tiers
  The average is lowered by a certain amount, e.g. -0.7 for a TM winning against a Legend (been there, done that!). Some kind of formula has been published here.

  - Credit wins
  To win credits in tournaments (?and Matches?) will bring players closer to or over the tier promotion line by a hidden effect on average + saturation no. In such cases, the moment of promotion is not linked to a game's finalisation but to payout time.

  - Level promotion on mobile
  Mobile players who frequently do not play (many) ranked strokeplay rounds may be promoted regardless of their high average (e.g. 150). It looks like this is connected to certain levels, and it goes up at least to Legend => TL tier promotion at levels beyond 100. See this thread as a starter.

• el3n1 4,494 Posts

  Mon, Apr 27 2020 3:58 PM

  just adding to what you shared

  alosso:

  It looks like this is connected to certain levels, and it goes up at least to Legend => TL tier promotion at levels beyond 100

  skilled coin room specialist who over time win enough higher stakes coin room games and possibly accumulate a lot of silver coins have also been promoted up to at least Champion tier based on a few observations and what was shared.  

  I suspect level progression plays a role at the lower tiers and may cap at a certain point depending on the players skill level / win rate / coin earnings.  

• MarchieB 1,525 Posts

  Mon, Apr 27 2020 5:47 PM

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• alosso 21,037 Posts

  Mon, Apr 27 2020 8:10 PM

  No offence, but I'm afraid that you are bending the words of you argument in your favour.

  I agree that the majority of paths isn't fully known in all their details. Alas, they are really known to be existing to an extent that exceeds speculation by miles.

• Robert1893 7,666 Posts

  Tue, Apr 28 2020 6:06 AM

  MarchieB:

  All the other possible ways to tier up are based on speculation and their requirements to tier up are not known, not that they do not exist. 

  But they're not based on speculation. For example, within the discussion boards, at least two moderators have specifically stated that coin players are moved up by levels. 
  
  You're correct that we don't know the specifics. But we do know that it's a method of leveling up. A player can get all the way to Tour Champion through playing the coin matches. A while back I saw a Tour Champion who had played only about 6 ranked rounds (total). 

• bossbird 2,192 Posts

  Tue, Apr 28 2020 6:25 AM

  I play mobile only , but tiered up through ranked rounds , and only in last 18 months played in coin rooms. I find people of all levels forfeit , either when they hit a terrible first drive , or even as late as the last putt. Today for example I was playing in Casablanca which is 10 k stake against a tour pro who hand a shocking 2nd hole , and he said I never give up , play to the end , I was five shots up after two holes . He continued to the very last putt , I had already got on the green , he forfeited in some way that froze the screen , I waited a while , then closed out the game , when I would normally come back in as a saved game , but it didn’t , so I lost . I think there are numerous reasons and ways to forfeit , most are legitimate , some are not. I have now just learnt to go with the flow , but annoying none the less .