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Untrue winds...

Mon, Jul 8 2019 8:24 AM by pdb1. 28 replies.
  • KYLANDER Germany
    773 Posts
    Sun, Jun 9 2019 6:23 PM

    Since about 2.5 years, winds got merely misleading.

    But since about 4 weeks, it gets weirder every day. Especially in 4somes or skins, it seems 

    a) wind is completely wrong

    b) there are individual winds for every participant...

    Game became a lottery - if this continues, WGT will lose many active players.

    If I want a gamble, I go to a casino...

    WGT will not listen, they never do - part of the problem...

     

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  • JasonDurham United States
    216 Posts
    Sun, Jun 9 2019 7:40 PM

    KYLANDER:

    Since about 2.5 years, winds got merely misleading.

    But since about 4 weeks, it gets weirder every day. Especially in 4somes or skins, it seems 

    a) wind is completely wrong

    b) there are individual winds for every participant...

    Game became a lottery - if this continues, WGT will lose many active players.

    If I want a gamble, I go to a casino...

    WGT will not listen, they never do - part of the problem...

     

    100% agree, wind effect is a crap shoot at best! Tonight I played a few games where wind did nothing at 25 mph and then on the next shot moved the ball way off target. Another game had a 25 to 27 mph wind helping and a 8 foot drop in elevation. At 199 yards I thought a 5 iron at 185 would have been perfect........ um how about 15 yards short of the target. So the wind and elevation did nothing. Now how much of this can be chalked up to VEM in the game vs the wind not doing what it should???? I believe WGT has not only lost control but has no clue as to what golf should play like!!!!! WGT Champion said they know how to fix the issues with VEM but choose not too!!!!! The game could be the best out if only WGT would hear what players are telling them!

     

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  • DoctorLarry United States
    1,975 Posts
    Sun, Jun 9 2019 8:44 PM

    Well, we all play with the same system and sometimes the wind varies in play.  Not much we can do about it - it even happens in real life.

    I have only played about 15 months and I see no difference over that time span.  YMMV.

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  • gherkinhead1 Australia
    184 Posts
    Mon, Jun 10 2019 3:50 AM

    KYLANDER:

    Since about 2.5 years, winds got merely misleading.

    But since about 4 weeks, it gets weirder every day. Especially in 4somes or skins, it seems 

    a) wind is completely wrong

    b) there are individual winds for every participant...

    Game became a lottery - if this continues, WGT will lose many active players.

    If I want a gamble, I go to a casino...

    WGT will not listen, they never do - part of the problem...

     

    In fact you are completely wrong.

     

    It wasn't 2.5 years ago,  its was 2.51 years ago.

     

    Please get your facts right.

     

    And - learn how to spell properely.

     

     

     

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  • WGTChampion United States
    1,404 Posts
    Mon, Jun 10 2019 7:33 AM

    JasonDurham:

     WGT Champion said they know how to fix the issues with VEM but choose not too!!!!! The game could be the best out if only WGT would hear what players are telling them!

    lol, that's not at all what I said. 

    _CHAMPION 

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  • DufferJohn7 United States
    1,914 Posts
    Mon, Jun 10 2019 10:46 AM

    gherkinhead1:
    And - learn how to spell properely.

    Now that's just too funny!

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  • el3n1 United States
    2,459 Posts
    Tue, Jun 11 2019 4:16 PM

    WGTChampion:

    lol, that's not at all what I said. 

    _CHAMPION 

    I will try to help... I don't recall you "saying" anything but you typed/wrote the following to help the community out with some clarification.  

    It was in this thread... about half way down on page 22... now you may have typed or "said" something else in another thread but this is just what I am familiar with.  

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  • YankeeJim United States
    24,454 Posts
    Tue, Jun 11 2019 4:30 PM

    WGTChampion:

    JasonDurham:

     WGT Champion said they know how to fix the issues with VEM but choose not too!!!!! The game could be the best out if only WGT would hear what players are telling them!

    lol, that's not at all what I said. 

    _CHAMPION 

    Not even close. In fact, that reference Colin linked is well worth finding. It happens to be the best explanation of VEM I have seen since it was discovered and is right on point.  :-)

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  • el3n1 United States
    2,459 Posts
    Tue, Jun 11 2019 4:33 PM

    YankeeJim:
    that reference Colin linked

    don't see a link by Colin... did I miss something or repost a link already given? 

    After rechecking, appears YJ just giving misleading reference no other links appear to be given.  

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  • JasonDurham United States
    216 Posts
    Tue, Jun 11 2019 9:30 PM

    YankeeJim:

    WGTChampion:

    JasonDurham:

     WGT Champion said they know how to fix the issues with VEM but choose not too!!!!! The game could be the best out if only WGT would hear what players are telling them!

    lol, that's not at all what I said. 

    _CHAMPION 

    Not even close. In fact, that reference Colin linked is well worth finding. It happens to be the best explanation of VEM I have seen since it was discovered and is right on point.  :-)

    Please read again and get back with me, VEM is computer controlled and swings in both directions good and bad. I’m correct in what I said, WGT Champ could remove this from the game and will not . Also correct in saying the VEM punishes players for both bad and good play. I pointed out what was said and what the real problems are, while iv been playing now everyday for 100 days I see a lot of improvements that have been made. I also see problems that have never been fixed or tweaked. I fail too see why you would not want to better game play by fixing a few things instead of arguing there is nothing wrong here!  But I digress, play on people’s and play well. 

     

    Btw Jim I’m not trying to be rude, please don’t take it that way. 

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