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Clash... Time for a change

Mon, Mar 25 2019 8:00 AM by Robert1893. 15 replies.
  • EasyEdward United States
    11,689 Posts
    Sun, Mar 24 2019 4:50 PM

    Kenbo00:
    This is to the WGT..

    I would suggest that you send this directly to either a WGT moderator as a PM or Wall Post or even to Customer Service.

    Reason is simple - a moderator or any other representative of WGT has never replied to anything that I recall in CC Corner Forum for at least the last 3 years. 6 Years ago yes they did - today never.

    That leads me to believe they read nothing here and therefore could care less about what is said here.

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  • Dave33200 United States
    593 Posts
    Sun, Mar 24 2019 7:54 PM

     

    I agree with you Ken. The clashes are getting to be a PITA to play.

     

    I have been with a few CC’s which some were clash clubs & others were not, but I have heard the people complain about the same thing regardless which club I was in. It’s just no fun when we have 20+ MPH winds so many don’t play.

     

    I know in my real golf game I do not play if the wind is in the 20+ mph. I just stay home and do something else. The same is true for many of the majority of the WGT members here. If the winds are just too strong, they just do something else.  

     

    The top clash clubs will always play regardless of the conditions, however WGT would get a lot more players to participate if the conditions weren’t so bad, and would also give the top clubs a bit more competition as there would be more clubs with more members playing in the clash.

     

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  • jimreser United States
    15 Posts
    Mon, Mar 25 2019 2:55 AM

    High wind speed is very unfair.  Not because wind is not part of the game but because it is random here in WGT land.

     

    2 players playing at the same time get completely different wind conditions....WGT has random wind settings

    If WGT could make the wind the same for everyone during the same event then fine make wind speeds anything but if they cannot then winds should be minimal 

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  • HackWilson1930 United States
    1,159 Posts
    Mon, Mar 25 2019 5:50 AM

    Folks, get real. WGT started the clashes almost 4 years ago. Not long after they started there were forum posts about the fairness as well as the rewards. Very little has changed since then other than The Georgian having a membership meltdown. WGT has done some minor tweaking but that is it.

    As far as people not playing, where does this information come from? WGT is not transparent. They do not give out information about how many members take part in any of the clashes. They don't even reveal how many active accounts exist. Looking at the WGT Players list it can be quickly discerned that many people start accounts but don't play very long before quitting. 

    Many WGT members threaten to stop playing or stop making purchases. These members fail to realize that the WGT relies on advertising for its revenue. As WGT players we don't even know how much profit, if  any, goes upstream to Topgolf.  Yet some members seem to think WGT is concerned enough to listen to their complaints and then take action. Don't count on it but be wildly happy if some changes do take place in the clash format.

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  • Cleworthy United States
    1,140 Posts
    Mon, Mar 25 2019 5:52 AM

    I had this idea that Clashes could be in the form of a Bracket challenge. Put clubs with similar ranks against each other. For each side WGT randomly selects 8 members, the club owner or a director picks the other 8 players. Format would be a speed bracket - 30 minutes per round. Clash madness!

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  • Robert1893 United States
    4,866 Posts
    Mon, Mar 25 2019 8:00 AM

    jimreser:
    High wind speed is very unfair.  Not because wind is not part of the game but because it is random here in WGT land. 

    2 players playing at the same time get completely different wind conditions....WGT has random wind settings

    If WGT could make the wind the same for everyone during the same event then fine make wind speeds anything but if they cannot then winds should be minimal

    If it were a single-play tournament with individuals winning or losing, I would agree. But since clubs have multiple people playing and individuals can play multiple rounds, I think the wind effect tends to even itself out in the long run. I really think it's a "no harm/no foul" situation. 

    While I think high-wind conditions for clashes make no sense, I don't think there's a fairness issue at all. Even if there is, that's the least of the problems with the clash events. 

     

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