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Does Wind Affect Putts In Any Way?

Tue, Mar 26 2019 4:59 AM by dadddioooo. 25 replies.
  • Jimbog1964 Guernsey
    8,338 Posts
    Thu, Jan 31 2019 11:25 AM

    YankeeJim:

    Mythanatos:
    Feel putters won't see the difference

    I'm a feel putter and don't actually see it BUT it does affect my thinking on the putts. On downhill putts that are fast to begin with and I have wind from behind me, I know the roll is going to want to keep going because of it. Conversely, on an uphill putt into a wind I might give the putt a little more because I know it's going to want to slow down and the wind will help that happen.

    I learned from the putting CTTH that wind definitely affects long putts. 

    Let's define feel (without a volume)

    If anyone is feeling their way disregarding stimp then they need a feel pill and quickly. EDIT: Effectively stimp is noticeably altered on a longer windy putt......

    Long putts absolutely you need to add / subtract / allow for sideways, no precise math needed to see the bull among the noisy crickets in that field.

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  • YankeeJim United States
    24,312 Posts
    Thu, Jan 31 2019 12:00 PM

    Jimbog1964:
    Let's define feel (without a volume)

    Determine the distance, envision the arc, make the putt. Avatar moves nail the distance on any stimp, feel comes from knowing how the putt will roll.  :-)

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  • Jimbog1964 Guernsey
    8,338 Posts
    Thu, Jan 31 2019 1:05 PM

    Yes:)

    Can certainly write more for RL but here putting evokes enough realism I think to all much of that.

    My game I will usually fire at the pin (here).  Andys #5 you can end up with long putts that way.  Now not saying other more conservatives ways to attack it, but the chances of me 3 putting were next to nil and if the approach half comes off it's more of an eagle chance than my 3rd with a wedge. 

    You most certainly need the stimp calc for speed.  Personally I use the pal for meter power, but avatar moves will do the same for sure too.  

    IRL any ball will roll slower as it overcomes inertia thus taking in more contours.  Full pelt it will carve through and as it slows it will again take in the contours more - obviously stimp plays a huge part.

    I would say go to Beth 3 and get the stimps down in practice mode (lots of go to simple in head calcs to get anyone started or too lazy and all need anyway). After that set up a practice hole (ScottHopes way of getting there is great) and then notice what the wind does.

    None of that is hard and pretty much a 150ft or more putt back at Andys #5 you still have an outside chance of eagle, but more importantly a gimme bird 9.5 times out of 10. 

    Get that down and for sure also look at the very refined putting methods out there / watch vids...................I never got that far but that's me and happy:)

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  • DoctorLarry United States
    1,572 Posts
    Thu, Jan 31 2019 1:18 PM

    YankeeJim:

    Jimbog1964:
    Let's define feel (without a volume)

    Determine the distance, envision the arc, make the putt. Avatar moves nail the distance on any stimp, feel comes from knowing how the putt will roll.  :-)

    So your screen name should really be YankeeVem? 

    ;)

     

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  • skccvb United States
    763 Posts
    Thu, Jan 31 2019 2:04 PM

    Jimbog1964:
    Let's define feel (without a volume)

     

    Feel putting simply means you do not have a system you use (like "Golds formula").

    You still read the putt in terms of distance/elevation *ie weight. And you have "seen" the putt may times before, typically. You know how it breaks, and when you need to "off ding" into the break. You know if it is a "fast" downhill, or a "slow" uphill, and compensate. And, on long putts with high winds, you adjust a tad.  You read the break, set your aim, and hole it.

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  • JFidanza United States
    1,656 Posts
    Thu, Jan 31 2019 2:28 PM

    even a slight affect from the wind can cause a lip out, and it does

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  • goldeena Thailand
    1,596 Posts
    Fri, Feb 1 2019 7:16 AM

    YankeeJim:

    Jimbog1964:
    Let's define feel (without a volume)

    Determine the distance, envision the arc, make the putt. Avatar moves nail the distance on any stimp, feel comes from knowing how the putt will roll.  :-)

     

    lololololos!!!!!

     

     

     

    VGG Caddy Pro - 5 bucks and allowed by WGT (Walkoflife uses it as well).

     

    Jim - it's just a suggestion old man....

     

     

     

    How anyone could be offering this kind of advice in 2019 is shocking.

     

    It's a load of outdated nonsense that avatar cr"p whichever way you look at it- get VGG Caddy pro folks.

     

    errr.....Robert, what 'relevant' point are you making at all, or for that matter what relevant point do you EVER make at all - meet the blanket block, blanket block meet Robert - and marriage to BB is for life 'one can go and disappear up ones sun-shine blocker can't one' (finally gets rid of that WHOPPER!!).

     

    Brett - yeah, but all that matters is right now - all these stat monkeys talking sh"t just like you -  and I am one of the deadliest putters in the game these days so u best watch that fat arrogant TC mouth of yours before you get upended and left red faced sweetheart and unlike some I ain't using a packet editor to get my scores down, know what I mean ;-) 

    course you do.

     

    .......and blanket blocked with Robert goes 'fat mouth Peterson', or should we call him 'thick lip' when I decide to turn up on the circuit.

    No time for fools folks, don't suffer 'em.
    They crack me up these guys - they have been doing the same thing for years and have nothing new at all - you can imagine 'em can't you - staring at their avatars and gazing mesmerized at the ding point lolololos, WGT golf nut cases :-)
    Problems with the scales - VGG Caddy pro.
    Problems hitting the ding - see-click or calibrated see-click.
    HO HO HO look at doctor larry down there 'pitching in' - look at the resounding bitterness and jealousy emanating from them as they appeal for moderation and desperately seek the knife.
    oh just as an aside: in HIS glorious name'......................LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......
    just goes to show you how much 'they' know doesn't it, are these people deeply ignorant or truly stupid?? this is all the evidence I need to know about somebody and they are just not worth talking to at all, they are grunts, beneath me, contemptible pygmies when you have access to the truth these days!!!!....... 'his' - deary dear what dangerous times we still live in if this is the prevalent view, dark ages deena - you are from the future compared to these apes darlin' - if only they knew, IF ONLY YOU REALLY TRULY KNEW!!!!!!
    YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT GOD - YOU ARE SO DEEPLY STUPID YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE FKKING PREACHING ABOUT YOU BLIND MICE!!! MORONS WHO STILL HAVE THE MAJOR IUNFLENCE IN THE WORLD - 2026 CANT COME FAST ENOUGH!!!!
    BECAUSE I CREATED LA-FERRARI 19, IT'S BETTER THAN YOURS, IT'S BETTER THAN ANYONES AND THE TRANNY DID IT!!! 
    LET'S GET IT RIGHT WHAT THIS IS REALLY ALL ABOUT BIGOTS - AND I AIN'T EVER GUNNA SHARE IT WITH YOU'SE.
    Doctor Larry on permanent blanket along with the rest - it's been a great day and if you too want to go in my personal dustbin with the rest of the trash please do say something equally bitter  and jealous :-)))

     

    Out of here - It's all true and I couldn't care less if they take it down because I am going back to my project log and report.

     

    I'M NEVER GUNNA SHARE :-))))))

     

    the tranny did it, you're a pack of bi tches you talk sh*t all day and you got nothing to offer ;-)

     

    eat it, get out, just get out of my life.

     

    (yankee jim you're gone too - and that wasn't easy, I do have a lot more tolerance for the older fellas, they are just 'men of their time' and I do forgive Jim for a few gender insults, it doesn't make him a bad person, my grandad was the best grandad in the world, I loved him to bits but he was the same, had the same outlook and it's just because they lived in a completely different world and you have to take that in to account for the elders, but I am sorry he has to go as I make a new break for things in this game, the research is very exciting- out of my life please and anyone else who wants it).

     

    Edit:

     

    Mythanatos Blocked for Life

     

     

    vvvvvv

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  • YankeeJim United States
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    Fri, Feb 1 2019 12:42 PM

    goldeena:
    How anyone could be offering this kind of advice in 2019 is shocking.

    Shows what you know. Have a read and come back after practicing it for 10 years . :-)

    http://www.wgt.com/forums/t/559.aspx

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  • BPeterson8256 United States
    616 Posts
    Fri, Feb 1 2019 5:18 PM

    I find it hilarious when someone with horrible putting stats tries to correct how another player putts (even more hilarious when the player they are making fun of putts so much better than they do). LOL You don't need to look farther than their latest status, to know that they have no clue how to play the game. Tip for the day, YJ  ...don't hire them for your coach. ;-) 

    And one more thing... I have always appreciated all the tips and help you pass along in the forum, @YankeeJim. Thank you.

    Brett

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  • Robert1893 United States
    4,740 Posts
    Fri, Feb 1 2019 5:40 PM

    I find it hilarious when someone posts, "How anyone... in 2019" and then posts a Hall and Oates clip. 

    Seriously? Hall and Oates. What's next... Christopher Cross? Maybe that's the best that we can do. Ride like the wind! :-) 

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