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29 yd Flop shot

Wed, Jan 30 2019 4:24 PM by goldeena. 32 replies.
  • goldeena Thailand
    1,682 Posts
    Thu, Jan 17 2019 4:29 AM

    Usually punch from that distance but Don is right - where a steep elevation comes in to play (a trap e.t.c.) I would choose the flop over the punch, it's about 10 feet left at full whack, the 20 yard flop is 7 feet left at full whack (before wind).

     

    This reminds me to do a bit of housekeeping, it might be more effective to choose 1 shot over another but it's more enjoyable if you are so proficient at all of them that you can just take your pick and I think that model of mine of the 29 yard flop needs revisiting......

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  • garyk49 United States
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    Thu, Jan 17 2019 5:56 AM

    skccvb:

    No run out with full 60 yd CG wedge, full bs.

    maybe with the 588's but not the 16's. Based on % calc, that is a 18/19 yard shot every time.  Punch is just slightly shorter at about 16/17.  29 is only 48% of the 60.  Under 50 is a crapshoot on a FULL shot.  Guessing game for % to make 29.

    Best is the 69% fbs punch with the same club.  29 all day long.

     

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  • SplashLewis United States
    331 Posts
    Thu, Jan 17 2019 8:03 AM

    MCH2:

    Does anybody use the 29 yd flop shot.  I can see the uses for the 20 yd flop, but I think your full 50 or 60 yd wedge does a better job in most all situations than the 29 yd flop.  What say you!

    I used to  100% of the time.  Now i use a punch shot for that distance 100%

    for 29yds, a 68% of your 50yd wedge would go 29yds exactly  (from a perfect lie, no elevation)

     

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  • SplashLewis United States
    331 Posts
    Thu, Jan 17 2019 8:18 AM

    goldeena:

    Usually punch from that distance but Don is right - where a steep elevation comes in to play (a trap e.t.c.) I would choose the flop over the punch, it's about 10 feet left at full whack, the 20 yard flop is 7 feet left at full whack (before wind).

     

    This reminds me to do a bit of housekeeping, it might be more effective to choose 1 shot over another but it's more enjoyable if you are so proficient at all of them that you can just take your pick and I think that model of mine of the 29 yard flop needs revisiting......

     

    For you Deena for comparison to what you have.  :)

    FBS with your 50yd wedge...

    =IF(C16>32,IF(D16=50,(0.5+(C16*0.00142+(0.014*(C16-18)))),0),IF(D16=50,(0.5+(C16*0.00142+(0.0127*(C16-18)))),0))

    C16 = Yards to pin

    Yards to pin = stated yardage - (down elevation/2) + (up elevation/2.3)

    D16 = wedge yardage (50 yard club)

     

     

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  • carlosdev India
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    Thu, Jan 17 2019 8:23 AM

    SplashLewis:

    goldeena:

    Usually punch from that distance but Don is right - where a steep elevation comes in to play (a trap e.t.c.) I would choose the flop over the punch, it's about 10 feet left at full whack, the 20 yard flop is 7 feet left at full whack (before wind).

     

    This reminds me to do a bit of housekeeping, it might be more effective to choose 1 shot over another but it's more enjoyable if you are so proficient at all of them that you can just take your pick and I think that model of mine of the 29 yard flop needs revisiting......

     

    For you Deena for comparison to what you have.  :)

    FBS with your 50yd wedge...

    =IF(C16>32,IF(D16=50,(0.5+(C16*0.00142+(0.014*(C16-18)))),0),IF(D16=50,(0.5+(C16*0.00142+(0.0127*(C16-18)))),0))

    C16 = Yards to pin

    Yards to pin = stated yardage - (down elevation/2) + (up elevation/2.3)

    D16 = wedge yardage (50 yard club)

    LMFAOOOOOO

     

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  • lonniescott711 United States
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    Thu, Jan 17 2019 9:29 AM

    MCH2:

    Does anybody use the 29 yd flop shot.  I can see the uses for the 20 yd flop, but I think your full 50 or 60 yd wedge does a better job in most all situations than the 29 yd flop.  What say you!

    Its a good go to shot when needed . It really depends on what you are used to using . If you are confident hitting the flop shot then its what you will go to . As you can see some players like to choke the 50 yd. punch me I`d rather just use the flop . For me its easier to use because I learned how to . For me the flop punch and pitch shots are the 3 top choices after full when playing . 

     

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  • goldeena Thailand
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    Thu, Jan 17 2019 9:31 AM

    SplashLewis:

    goldeena:

    Usually punch from that distance but Don is right - where a steep elevation comes in to play (a trap e.t.c.) I would choose the flop over the punch, it's about 10 feet left at full whack, the 20 yard flop is 7 feet left at full whack (before wind).

     

    This reminds me to do a bit of housekeeping, it might be more effective to choose 1 shot over another but it's more enjoyable if you are so proficient at all of them that you can just take your pick and I think that model of mine of the 29 yard flop needs revisiting......

     

    For you Deena for comparison to what you have.  :)

    FBS with your 50yd wedge...

    =IF(C16>32,IF(D16=50,(0.5+(C16*0.00142+(0.014*(C16-18)))),0),IF(D16=50,(0.5+(C16*0.00142+(0.0127*(C16-18)))),0))

    C16 = Yards to pin

    Yards to pin = stated yardage - (down elevation/2) + (up elevation/2.3)

    D16 = wedge yardage (50 yard club)

     

     

    Nice!

     

    Are you getting decent results with it? Just scanning over it - looks like we do similar kinda things - that 'C16-18' looks like something I do.....

     

    =IF((AND((D21>0);($C$29<22)));(10-((26-$C$29)));0)

     

    We are probably doing similar things - oh and don't 'feed 'em' just go to WGT member: scotthope page, find the 'block forum posts' button and read it. You don't have to suffer anyone any longer.

     

    Thanks for your interesting post and good luck with it 'splash lewis' the best name ever :-)

     

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  • ChronicDiarrhea United States
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    Thu, Jan 17 2019 9:47 AM

    TopShelf2010:

    Purely situational.

    It all depends on where you are at around the green. Elevation of the green as well as the slope will determine which is the preferred shot.

    ^^^^

    I concur

    ~Scott

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  • SplashLewis United States
    331 Posts
    Thu, Jan 17 2019 9:59 PM

    goldeena:

     

    Nice!

     

    Are you getting decent results with it? Just scanning over it - looks like we do similar kinda things - that 'C16-18' looks like something I do.....

     

    =IF((AND((D21>0);($C$29<22)));(10-((26-$C$29)));0)

     

    We are probably doing similar things - oh and don't 'feed 'em' just go to WGT member: scotthope page, find the 'block forum posts' button and read it. You don't have to suffer anyone any longer.

     

    Thanks for your interesting post and good luck with it 'splash lewis' the best name ever :-)

     

    Thanks Deena

    Yes, I used someones spreadsheet that had power % vs yardage for their 50yd punch to develop the formula.  Only issue is trying to figure out the true yardage to pin when there is quite a bit of +/- elevation for that short of shot because of the rollout .  I have several holeouts with it.  :)

     

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  • MCH2 United States
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    Thu, Jan 17 2019 11:21 PM

    In what situation will a 29 yd flop shot outperform a full 60 yd wedge?

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