Bug Log

Re: Club length Issues

thunderbird — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:08:42 GMT

Very confused that the seven iron on any hole never goes beyond 150 yards and I am playing the ping G10 pro rated for 150. On hole 1 at bethpage with a 10 mph tailwind I hit a full seven iron with no bs or ts and it goes 146. I hit on the center line. This is quite frustrating as I normally add 4 yards for the slight incline on hole 1. This is not to mention that I am playing the G!D ball which should make the seven go over 150 if I am correct.

Re: Club length Issues

iconian — Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:29:54 GMT

its normal for that hold. you see, the club has carry distance and run distance. the reason you are 18 yards short is 2 fold:

1. that green is slightly uphill so it plays longer

2. its landing area is 4-5 ft below the green, so anything landing on it without GOOD power will stop 18 yards short, like you noticed.

next time try to hitting full power and land 6-7 yards further, it should release then. or come from left or right side (not directly at the flag)

Re: Club length Issues

TheSpaghettiKid — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:06:53 GMT

does this happen with other clubs?

i'm lying 135 from the pin on #9 KIAWAH with a 8mph tailwind i hit a tour burner 8 iron 1 avatar move from full swing with 100% backspin PERFECT... right on the line... expected to be long and it fell 18 yards short.

Re: Club length Issues

drivnchaos — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:05:10 GMT

Agreed. Had a shot on Kiawah # 1. Level elevation, 137 to the hole, 7mph tailwind, full backspin. Used Taylormade graphite 7 rated at 140, perfect line hit.....130 yards reached ? I usually treat my 7 iron like a little better 6 iron for this reason

Re: Club length Issues

Infinito3010 — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:27:07 GMT

The 7 Iron issue also hasn't been resolved for the TaylorMade Burner graphite set. Sometimes, you can play a knocked 6 iron, but other times you need the benefit of the loftier club. This is an excellent product. Your balls are reasonable, and your new club sets look outstanding.

As for Tibbets Rapture V2 7 iron being affected also, may indicate parameters for these clubs may not be matched correctly. So lets get these clubs fixed so you can work on more impressive courses, and challenges.

Regards

Infinito3010

Re: Club length Issues

tibbets — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 02:57:14 GMT

Ok, I am now using the V2 Rapture set. The 7 iron is rated 145. I just bombed a drive on Bethpage #1, had 146 left to go to the hole, with a 10mph wind blowing at my back, a little right to left. I hit a 7 iron full power with backspin perfectly. Result? 135 yards. ( with the ball that gives you more distance )

It's still broken guys.

Re: Club length Issues

lilrob88 — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:43:23 GMT

Attention! All my clubs are broken! They never go where i want them to! Moreless my own fault though. Hahaha!

Club length Issues

Infinito3010 — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 04:35:38 GMT

I may be able to shed some light on the mysterious issues with club yardages on holes that baffles ones thoughts.

Its my opinion that the course 3D dimensional model is incorrect on some holes.

For example, 6th hole at BethPage black as indicated in my previous post I came short on a 7 iron. I was to compare relative position of the ball with respect to the traps on linksLS. I was approximately 161 yards to the pin or 15 yds difference. This represents the amount I came up short with the 7Iron. Generally you can drop down club with then there is a 15-25 foot drop in elevation. I have not been able to apply this rule on this hole.

The WGT team has their work cut out for them in verifying their yardages and the respective 3D model of each hole. This would be consistent with the closest to hole challenge at Lake Tahoe. Their is one hole that plays across the water and the yardage indicates 142 yds which is unreachable with the 7I, also the 1st hole at Lake Tahoe shows a yardage of 128yds, which I tend to believe it is 140 yds.

Thus, you'll most likely want to address each hole separately during the verification stage of your analysis and make what ever corrections are necessary to the model.

I would like to see your progress for issue. Verification of each hole's 3D model.

Please look at the 7I

Infinito3010 — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 03:41:18 GMT

7 Iron Taylor Burner; Iron rated at 140 yards.

Incident: 6th Hole BethPage;

2nd shot was a 145yd shot to the pin with a 9 mph tail wind and green 16 feet below the ball.

Shot parameters; 7I with full back swing, and with full backspin;

Execution: Iron was hit on its sweet spot;

Results: Shot came up 14 yds short or the ball only travelled 131yds. Which is impossible.

Pls address this issue.

Re: Please look at the 7I

Infinito3010 — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:59:52 GMT

Can I make a suggestion in regards to club distances.

There is only two issues I have with the iron distances. The clubs are TaylorMade Burner;

The 7 iron is rated for 140.

The 6 iron is rated for 153

Both clubs are typically short in yardage. Especially the 7 iron.

All clubs are rated in ideal conditions no wind. Thus the player facing windage issues can affectively adjust their swing and

back spin to accommodate the yardage.

The 7 iron and 6 iron generally carry their distance with little roll. And yes, I am speaking from experience.

Your continuous efforts to improve the flight model of these clubs will only add the to pleasure of playing this virtual

golf, which is outstanding.

Re: Please look at the 7I

Infinito3010 — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:50:34 GMT

Yes, I have the same issue with the 7 iron {Burner} 19 mph tail wind, default lie on the fairway, with no adjustment to backspin. Unforntunately the ball only travelled 131 yds.

Re: Please look at the 7I

WGTalex — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:34:48 GMT

Hi everyone, we are having another look at this and will let you know our findings. Thanks for your patience.

Re: Please look at the 7I

nivlac — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:06:24 GMT

Thanks! I wish I could do the videos so I could help out with this more. :(

Re: Please look at the 7I

tibbets — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:44:56 GMT

I emailed 17 consecutive clips on 2 different courses of the Tour Starter 7 iron (rated 142) going an average of 12 yards short of its rating with full backspin on relative level ground in low wind conditions, on both Kiawah and Bethpage. We'll see if that makes any difference.

Re: Please look at the 7I

AvatarLee — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:22:56 GMT

It's still broken.... that's the report =(

I just treat my Ping 7i like it goes 140 not 145. But even then it will surprise me the odd time.

WGT please, please fix it....