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Re: Mobile Players w/150 Averages

Wed, Apr 15 2020 4:29 PM by pdb1. 65 replies.
  • pdb1 United States
    20,262 Posts
    Thu, Apr 9 2020 8:42 PM

    Mythanatos:
    as someone that has played both platforms since i started most of you really have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to others perceptions.

      Not taking anything away from your very good stats . Most of these opinions here are derived from many more years and many thousands more games with players from both platforms than yourself . You talk about 200 top players . With one limited format skill .

      These other suggestions are from a field in excess of 20,000 to 200,000 possibly millions . Of much better players . With multiple format skills . And very open minded . Pointing out some serious deficiencies .

  • fobby1980 United States
    283 Posts
    Thu, Apr 9 2020 9:59 PM

    LOL what multiple format skills? There are only two that count: stroke play and head-to-head. Everything else is just salad dressings. I think what Mythanatos was trying to say is that top Mobile players are very, very good at hth play, something that Flash players might lack. Sure they’re very good during stroke play, but competing live against others is another matter. 

  • Robert1893 United States
    5,716 Posts
    Fri, Apr 10 2020 6:15 AM

    fobby1980:

    LOL what multiple format skills? There are only two that count: stroke play and head-to-head. Everything else is just salad dressings. I think what Mythanatos was trying to say is that top Mobile players are very, very good at hth play, something that Flash players might lack. Sure they’re very good during stroke play, but competing live against others is another matter. 

    But in various formats, flash players play against each other all the time. So,I think most will have plenty of experience competing live against others. 

  • pdb1 United States
    20,262 Posts
    Fri, Apr 10 2020 6:23 AM

    fobby1980:
    LOL what multiple format skills? There are only two that count: stroke play and head-to-head.

      And the few mobile players that can't see beyond that . Are not any more elite level comparatively to the more experienced and larger number of PC veterans .

      Another point to be made is that a major part of this GR8 WGT experience . Is the " salad dressings " .

      IE: 9 SHADES OF GREY

  • el3n1 United States
    3,168 Posts
    Fri, Apr 10 2020 10:09 AM

    No shortage of "perspective" here... goodness people.

    pmm711 (paul) prefaced his findings on players with 150 averages. 

    That is a very specific subset of those who play WGT... it is NOT reflective of ALL mobile players, it is NOT reflective of those who play on both platforms, and it is simply observations he wanted to share about the different type experience these players have on WGT.

    Are his numbers exact... hard to say, but I did not read them as being exact figures but reflecting an observation of a very specific type of player he encounters in lower stakes coin rooms.

    I have actually encountered people in the mobile coin rooms that have read post I wrote in the forums.  I started out on mobile, but I was drawn to the forums because I wanted to figure out how people were able to score so crazy low scores in this game.  The forum is a huge resource for helping players advance.  Those who don't miss out on a lot of helpful tips.

    Mythanatos (Sid) reply was possibly a little harsh, but he was also speaking of an entirely different segment of the mobile players - the elite coin room specialist who have built up hundreds of millions or billions of coins.  Many of those players have extensive experience on both platforms.  

    As I see it, both players are referencing different aspects of the game.  Paul's numbers will not be reflective anymore of the players Sid encounters as Sid's observations of Bellagio are going to be reflective of the players Paul was directly referencing.  Has he encountered those players?  Yes, but he doesn't do so regularly anymore because playing low stakes would be wasting valuable ball hits for coins he doesn't need.  

    The game is very diverse so it is very challenging to find any statement that will ever fully encapsulate all types of players, except... people who are drawn to WGT are people who enjoy golfing games.  That may be all you find in common with all of them.  Every thing else could possibly be up to debate. 

    No need to be overly critical of one another.  

    I have noticed from a couple LIVE streaming events by WGT, more high profile, and even professional level players are interacting on WGT... We might all want to be cognizant of the image or approachability we present in our public discourse.   Just a thought!

     

  • pdb1 United States
    20,262 Posts
    Fri, Apr 10 2020 12:16 PM

    pmm711:
    Mobile Players w/150 Averages

    I did not fail to notice the subject . As I have commented on this subject in these forums a couple of times . ( I do not know which thread(s) ) . The 150 average mobile player . Is just another new(er) aspect of the game . There are probably as many answers to it as there are players .

    el3n1:
    No need to be overly critical of one another.

    I try very hard not to be . If it seemed that I was . I apologize . It was not my intent .

    el3n1:
    No shortage of "perspective" here...

  • Mythanatos United States
    1,367 Posts
    Fri, Apr 10 2020 5:39 PM

    pmm711:

    Mythanatos:
    at least get to where you can play 10 games of Bellagio in a night every night and meet the top 200 or so people that play in it. 

    200 Top Players are merely a tip of the iceberg in terms of % of players in this game (.0002 or less).  The person who needs to learn perspective is you.  99.9% of players...well you’re obviously “too good” for them.  The view from the top...I thought would be a broader view and not one as a thoroughbred wearing blinders.  Elitism lives and breathes within WGTland.  My God.

    actually i posted it exactly how i did as bait. knowing you'd post that.

    See you just aren't thinking. at all.

    because it's not like you are playing with lower than level 80 players in PC version. It's not like you're conversing with them. You have no context to compare back and forth. and even on the extreme rare case that you do with clubmates that's not 30 different people a night.

    as i said perspective. Learn it before popping off. 

     

    incidentally the elitism is on your part. You are basing your judgments on playing with people lower level and skill than yourself. Im merely saying play with people of your own skill before being pompous.

  • pdb1 United States
    20,262 Posts
    Fri, Apr 10 2020 11:16 PM

    Mythanatos:
    It's not like you're conversing with them.

      What are you going on about ? In the PC version . The texting is top notch . And is a big part of most matches . Very common . GR8 conversations , mega information , humorous back and forth , honorable and lasting friendships are inevitable .

      The mobile chat is primitive at best . But it works . I attempt to engage every time . For a couple years . I rarely got a response . When I did . The 150 average players most times was stand offish , rude , and arrogant . Not wanting to discuss WGT or how their day was going , etc . However . In the last year . I have found a higher number of responses . On a positive note .

      Which in either case PC or mobile . Can lead to friends being made . PM messages exchanged to some degree . Mostly more common in PC . Which leads to a greater knowledge and credibility . And a level of expertise and confidence of statements and content in these forums .

      So if you are not " conversing with them " . That would explain your narrow knowledge of the reality of these topics . No disrespect intended .

      Also you need to put into perspective that as popular as mobile is . Or seems to be . Your " tip of the iceberg " . Is a mere microcosm of a percentage of what PC WGT has in numbers .

      You can be certain that most in this thread . Have experienced enough to know from what they speak . They are not ignorantly winging it and just B.S.ing . By more than observation . Conversation is the key to more informed and factual statements .

     

    Mythanatos:
    incidentally the elitism is on your part. You are basing your judgments on playing with people lower level and skill than yourself. Im merely saying play with people of your own skill before being pompous.

      IDK how you come to these conclusions . In PC the goal is to play with your peers of equal or higher standing than yourself . This is setup in the lobby or also by your status settings .

      That is difficult in mobile as there are no options to set . Another WGT failure in that format .

      These are not accusations . But are comments based on my observations . And are only my personal opinions .

  • MikeyBald United States
    129 Posts
    Sat, Apr 11 2020 7:51 AM

    Wow, I can’t believe this thread. I’ve been playing on WGT for a year now, all mobile because I don’t have a computer to play the PC version, did you ever think maybe people like me are out there?

    Anyways, I’ll continue to enjoy this GAME with these other mobile players, as well as interact with PC players in my club and others who can look at us all who are just out here to have a good time playing a game.

    Peace out.

    Mike

  • pdb1 United States
    20,262 Posts
    Sat, Apr 11 2020 7:27 PM

      Okay Mike . I think I was misunderstood . I definitely know there are strictly mobile players . And no it is not a prerequisite to have played on PC . I feel like the lack of information on how to get more information about this WGT game was poorly planned in that platform .

      What I would most like to convey is friendly communication . I think that is possible . And I think that is happening . More and more between mobile and PC . Especially now that cross platform play may be possible .

      And as you mention in your unedited post I am not shocked that you initiate communication . You are also correct about the # 's & % 's . None of us really know what they are or what they mean .

      Peace to you as well .

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